The
Framers’ Definition of a Natural Born Citizen Is Not Based on Race, Color, or
Religion
By Mario Apuzzo,
Esq.
February 29,
2016
Donald Trump is not redefining the meaning of a
natural born citizen. Rather, he is only
recognizing what that meaning is. Allow
me to explain.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution provides:
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United
States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to
the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office
who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen
Years a Resident within the United States." Hence, for those born after the adoption of
the Constitution, if one is not a natural born citizen, then one is prohibited
from being President. The Twelfth Amendment requires that also the
Vice-President be a natural born citizen.
Under Article II, one of the three requirements to
be President of the United States and its Commander in Chief of the Military,
for those born after the adoption of the Constitution, is not that the
individual be a human. Nor is it that the individual be a citizen. Rather, the
requirement is that the individual be a natural born citizen. (Under Article
II, one was eligible to the Office of President if one was just a citizen if
one had that status as of the time of the adoption of the Constitution.) This simple
dichotomy tells us that a natural born citizen has birth characteristics which
are not possessed by humans in general, or even citizens in general. So then what is a natural born citizen, what
are its birth characteristics, and how does its definition differ from that of
a citizen?
Having fought a bloody revolution which saw not only
Americans fighting the British, but also Americans fighting Americans, the
Founders and Framers were well aware of how vital undivided and unwavering
allegiance was to the creation, survival, and perpetuation of the new nation
under republican principles. When setting
up the new national government, the Founders and Framers sought to prevent monarchical
and foreign influence from making its insidious way into the new national government
in general and into the Office of President and Commander in Chief of the
Military in particular. Hence, the
Framers provided that not Congress, but the Electoral College elect the
President and that any person born after the adoption of the Constitution to be
eligible to the Office of President and Commander in Chief be a natural born
citizen. Being a natural born citizen,
the President and Commander would from birth be loyal, faithful, and in
allegiance only to the United States. How
do we know that the Framers saw this consequence in a President and Commander
being a natural born citizen?
Since the beginning of their creation, men and women
who first created new groups and later ordered civil and political societies
became the first members of those groups or societies. As to their children, they belonged to the groups
or societies in which their member parents chose by free will to have them be born. These children, born to parents who were the
first members of that group or society in the land to which their parents
belonged were the natives or natural born members. This belonging became known as membership in
those ordered societies, which later became countries or nations. This membership entitled one to defined
privileges, immunities, and rights as provided by the customs and later laws of
those countries or nations. In countries
led my monarchical governments,[2] these members were called subjects. In contrast, in a country or nation led by a
republican form of government,[3] a
member of such country or nation came to be called a citizen. So, the first members of these republican
societies or countries were called citizens and their children, the first ones
to be born to those first members in those new societies or countries, were
called natives or natural born citizens. [4]
Needless to say that a natural born citizen is a
citizen from the moment of birth. But
that statement does not articulate any definition of the clause, for it does not
state the producing causes of the character.
As we have seen, in order for a child to be a natural born citizen, the
child must satisfy certain birth circumstances.
It is these birth circumstances that join at the moment of birth to produce
the recognized and articulated birth character and the clause’s ultimate
definition.
So just what are these birth circumstances which
unite at birth to produce a natural born citizen? A child to be a natural born citizen must be
born to two citizen parents. Such a
child must also be born in the country of his or her parents. This ancient Greek[5]
and Roman[6] rule
was confirmed by Emer de Vattel as being incorporated into the law of
nations. Vattel wrote in his highly
acclaimed and influential treatise, The Law of Nations, Section 212 (1758) (1797):
The citizens are the members of the civil
society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority,
they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country,
of parents who are citizens. As the
society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of
the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers,
and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in
consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as
matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his
children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is
therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their
tacit consent. We shall soon see, whether, on their coming to the years of discretion,
they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they
were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a
person be born of a father who is a citizen; for if he is born there of a
foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
The Law of Nations, at sec. 212 (emphasis
supplied).
Here we see how Vattel defined the natural born
citizens as children born in the country to parents who were its citizens. After providing this definition of the
clause, he referred to a citizen father because under the common law doctrine
of coverture, wives upon marriage adopted the citizenship of their
husbands. Hence, Vattel was merely
explaining how the citizen parents were to come to be, i.e., through a citizen
husband/father. Hence, the birth
character of a natural born citizen required a citizen father and a citizen
mother just as a natural child required a natural father and a natural
mother.
Not being natural born citizens, Vattel then
explained what status children born in the country to alien parents would have,
which was not that of a natural born citizen:
The inhabitants, as distinguished from citizens, are
foreigners, who are permitted to settle and stay in the country. Bound to the
society by their residence, they are subject to the laws of the state, while
they reside in it; and they are obliged to defend it, because it grants them
protection, though they do not participate in all the rights of citizens. They
enjoy only the advantages which the law or custom gives them. The perpetual
inhabitants are those who have received the right of perpetual
residence. These are a kind of citizens of an inferior order, and are united to
the society, without participating in all its advantages. Their children follow
the condition of their fathers; and as the state has given to these the right
of perpetual residence, their right passes to their posterity.
Vattel, Section 213, entitled, “Inhabitants.”
We can see that if a child was born in a country to
parents who were only legal and permanent inhabitants and not its citizens,
those children inherited the same status possessed by the parents, i.e., that
of a permanent residents. That child was
not a natural born citizen.
Vattel also explained in Section 214 how persons,
who were not natural born citizens could become citizens of a nation by that
nation through its positive laws adopting such persons as its members either at
birth or after birth:
A nation, or the sovereign who represents it, may
grant to a foreigner the quality of citizen, by admitting him into the body of
the political society. This is called naturalisation. There
are some states in which the sovereign cannot grant to a foreigner all the
rights of citizens,—for example, that of holding public offices,—and where,
consequently, he has the power of granting only an imperfect naturalisation. It
is here a regulation of the fundamental law, which limits the power of the
prince. In other states, as in England and Poland, the prince cannot naturalise
a single person, without the concurrence of the nation represented by its
deputies. Finally, there are states, as, for instance, England, where the
single circumstance of being born in the country naturalises the children of a
foreigner.
Vattel, Section 214, entitled “Naturalisation.”
We see that Vattel explained how a nation could
adopt as citizens persons not born as natural born citizens. He also explained how in England, because of
its local laws, children born there, even to alien parents, were naturalized at
birth to be subjects of that nation. The
historical and legal record demonstrates that the Founders and Framers did not
adopt this rule of the common law of England for defining a natural born
citizen. Rather, they adopted Vattel’s definition
of a “native[], or natural-born citizen[]” that Vattel provided in Section 212.
Vattel also covered children born out of the country
to citizen parents in Section 215. There
he explained:
It is asked, whether the children born of citizens
in a foreign country are citizens? The laws have decided this question in
several countries, and their regulations must be followed. By the law of nature
alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their
rights (§212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular, and
cannot of itself furnish any reason for taking from a child what nature has
given him; I say “of itself,” for civil or political laws may, for particular
reasons, ordain otherwise. But I suppose that the father has not entirely
quitted his country in order to settle elsewhere. If he has fixed his abode in
a foreign country, he is become a member of another society, at least as a
perpetual inhabitant; and his children will be members of it also.
Vattel, Section 215, entitled “Children of citizens,
born in a foreign country.”
Again, Vattel confirmed that if a child was born in
a country to perpetual inhabitants, the child upon birth inherited from his or
her parents their status and became like them a habitual inhabitant of that country
and not its natural born citizen.
Vattel, through Section 212, 214, and 215 confirmed
that only children born in the country to parents who were its citizens were
natural born citizens, and that all the rest were in need of naturalization,
either at birth or after birth. He
explained that in England, children born in the King’s dominion to alien
parents were naturalized at birth under the law of that nation which we know
was the English common law. He also
explained that children born out of the country to parents who were its
citizens were by the law of nature “citizens” of their parents’ nation, but
such status could be changed by the positive laws of that nation. Hence, under the law of nations, which did
not exist in a state of nature, only children born in a country to parents who
were its citizens were natural born citizens, which takes us back to the
definition that Vattel gave of a natural born citizen in Section 212.
Finally, Vattel also covered children born at sea
and to parents serving in diplomatic capacities or in the armies of the
state:
As to children born at sea, if they are born in
those parts of it that are possessed by their nation, they are born in the
country: if it is on the open sea, there is no reason to make a distinction
between them and those who are born in the country; for, naturally, it is our
extraction, not the place of our birth, that gives us rights: and if the
children are born in a vessel belonging to the nation, they may be reputed born
in its territories; for it is natural to consider the vessels of a nation as
parts of its territory, especially when they sail upon a free sea, since the
state retains its jurisdiction over those vessels. And as, according to the
commonly received custom, this jurisdiction is [103] preserved over
the vessels, even in parts of the sea subject to a foreign dominion, all the
children born in the vessels of a nation are considered as born in its territory. For the same reason, those born in a foreign vessel are reputed born in a foreign country, unless their birth
took place in a port belonging to their own nation: for the port is more
particularly a part of the territory; and the mother, though at that moment on
board a foreign vessel, is not on that account out of the country. I suppose
that she and her husband have not quitted their native country to settle
elsewhere.
Vattel, Section 216, entitled, “Children born at
sea.”
We can see that if a nation continued to exercise
jurisdiction over a person who was physically located outside its territory,
the nation could continue to claim that person as its citizen.
Vattel continued:
For the same reasons also, children born out of the
country in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a
foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a
citizen, who is absent with his family on the service of the state, but still
dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted
its territory.
Vattel, §217, entitled, “Children born in the armies
of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court.”
So, any child who was born at sea but still subject
to the jurisdiction of his or her parents’ nation or born out of the country to
parents either on diplomatic service for their nation or serving the armies of
their nation were reputed born in their country. This meant that such children, reputed born
in their parents’ country, were also natural born citizens.
Vattel in Sections 220 to 223 also explained that
persons had a right to expatriated themselves from the country of their birth,
under prescribed conditions. In Sections
224 to 231, Vattel also explained the sovereign right of a nation to determine
who it will allow to enter its territory and under what conditions.
Who the nation accepted to be its citizens was
tested in Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857). In that decision, the U.S. Supreme Court held
that a person of African descent, whether a slave or not, was not and could not
be a citizen of a State or of the United States. To arrive at its decision, the Court found
that the slave was not a part of the sovereign people who made the political
decision to associate together to form the United States. We know that that ultimate holding was
eventually abrogated by the Civil War, the Civil Rights Act of 1866, the
Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendment, and U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649
(1898). The Civil War, these constitutional
provisions, and statutory and case law together outlawed slavery and confirmed
that all people, regardless of race or color, could be citizens of the United
States. But none of that has anything to
do with how Dred Scott defined a natural born citizen, whose definition does
not contain any reference to race, color, or condition of servitude. Dred Scott prevented free blacks from being recognized
as members of American political society, i.e., citizens, not from being
recognized as natural born citizens. Hence,
what the Court explained about who were the natural born citizens, which did
not rest on any factors of race, color, or condition of servitude, is still
valid. In fact, in interpreting the
Fourteenth Amendment, the U.S. Supreme Court in The Slaughterhouse Cases quoted
from and relied upon the Dred Scott decision, explaining that Dred Scott
held that the words “people of the United
States" and "citizens" were synonymous terms; that the people of
the respective States were the parties to the Constitution; that these people
consisted of the free inhabitants of those States; that they had provided in
their Constitution for the adoption of a uniform rule of naturalization; that
they and their descendants and persons naturalized were the only persons who
could be citizens of the United States, and that it was not in the power of any
State to invest any other person with citizenship so that he could enjoy the
privileges of a citizen under the Constitution, and that therefore the
descendants of persons brought to this country and sold as slaves were not, and
could not be, citizens within the meaning of the Constitution.
The Slaughter House Cases, 83 U.S. 36, 95 (1873)
(citing and quoting Dred Scott v.
Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857).
Justice Daniel, in his Dred Scott concurring opinion
was more exact with the definition of a natural born citizen. Concurring with the majority, relying upon
Vattel’s explanation of what the civil society, its citizens and natural born
citizens were, and quoting the definition of a natural born citizen found in
Section 212 of The Law of Nations, stated:
Thus Vattel, in the preliminary chapter to his
Treatise on the Law of Nations, says: 'Nations or States are bodies politic;
societies of men united together for the purpose of promoting their mutual
safety and advantage, by the joint efforts of their mutual strength. Such a
society has her affairs and her interests; she deliberates and takes
resolutions in common; thus becoming a moral person, who possesses an
understanding and a will peculiar to herself.' Again, in the first chapter of
the first book of the Treatise just quoted, the same writer, after repeating
his definition of a State, proceeds to remark, that, 'from the very design that
induces a number of men to form a society, which has its common interests and
which is to act in concert, it is necessary that there should be established a
public authority, to order and direct what is to be done by each, in relation
to the end of the association. This political authority is the sovereignty.'
Again this writer remarks: 'The authority of all over each member essentially
belongs to the body politic or the State.'
By this same writer it is also said: 'The citizens
are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties,
and subject to its authority; they equally participate in its advantages. The
natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents
who are citizens. As society [60 U.S. 393, 477] cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of
their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the
country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be
born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his
country. The inhabitants, as distinguished from citizens, are foreigners who
are permitted to settle and stay in the country.' (Vattel, Book 1, cap. 19, p.
101.)
Dred Scott, 60 U.S. at 476-77 (Daniel, J.,
concurring).
It should be noted that Justice Daniel took out of
Vattel’s definition the reference to “fathers” and “father” and replaced it
with “parents” and “person,” respectively.
This shows that Justice Daniel understood that Vattel was requiring citizen
“parents” and that “father” or “fathers” was only under the common law doctrine
of coverture the means by which married parents were to be both citizens in
order for a child born to them in their country to be a natural born citizen.
Hence, Dred Scott explained that the citizens were
only those persons who were the original citizens and children born to citizen
parents, meaning father and mother, and those made by naturalization. Hence the natural born citizens were children
born in the country to parents who were citizens. All the rest of the people were aliens or
foreigners who could become citizens through naturalization, which is what
Minor v. Happersett (1875) also later confirmed. The definition of a natural born citizen that
the Court gave had nothing to do with slavery or keeping slaves or children of
slaves from being citizens. The Court confirmed
what the Framers’ definition of a natural born citizen was. At the same time, the Dred Scott Court found
that slaves were never citizens nor could they ever naturalize under any
then-existing naturalization Act of Congress.
Hence, they and their descendants were not citizens and with no parents
who were ever citizens, could also not be natural born citizens. That the Court made this finding does not in
the least disturb the definition of a natural born citizen which was a child
born in the country to parents who were its citizens at the time of the child’s
birth and which the unanimous U.S. Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett in 1875
confirmed to be the correct definition of the clause, which was after the Dred
Scott decision, the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and the Fourteenth
Amendment.
Because of the disability of slavery found by the
Dred Scott Court, we know that the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Fourteenth
Amendment were passed to allow free slaves to become “citizens” of the United
States. Becoming citizens under those
laws, free slaves were then placed in a position to give birth to children in
the United States who would qualify as natural born citizens.
The American
Civil War was fought from 1861 to 1865 to determine the survival of the United
States as then constituted or independence for the Confederacy. Of the 34 states that existed in January 1861,
seven Southern slave states each declared their secession from
the United States and formed the Confederate States of America. The Confederacy grew to include eleven
states and claimed thirteen states and additional western territories. Slavery and its extension into the western
territories was a major issue of the Civil War. With the defeat of the Confederacy, slavery
was abolished, after which began Reconstruction and the processes of once
again uniting the nation and guaranteeing the freed slaves civil rights.
As part of that Reconstruction, Congress passed the
Civil Rights Act of 1866 to undue Dred Scott’s holding that free blacks were
not citizens of the United States. It
provided in pertinent part: “All persons
born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding
Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”
Congress then followed with The Fourteenth
Amendment, which the nation ratified in 1868.
It provided in pertinent part: "All
persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein
they reside.”
The U.S. Supreme Court for the first time
interpreted the Fourteenth Amendment in The Slaughterhouse Cases (1873). Critically important is the fact that the
Court, which was virtually the same Court as the later Minor Court except for
Chief Justice Chase who would pass away by then, when interpreting the Fourteenth Amendment,
which interpretation reflected its understanding of who could be a citizen of
the United States by birth in the country, found that a child born in the
United States to alien parents was not a citizen of the United States under the
Fourteenth Amendment. Here is what Court said was the purpose and meaning
of the Fourteenth Amendment, and who the Amendment excluded from being a
citizen of the United States:
The first section of the fourteenth article to which
our attention is more specially invited opens with a definition of citizenship
-- not only citizenship of the United States, but citizenship of the States. No
such definition was previously found in the Constitution, nor had any attempt
been made to define it by act of Congress. It had been the occasion of much
discussion in the courts, by the executive departments, and in the public
journals. It had been said by eminent judges that no man was a citizen of the
United States except as he was a citizen of one of the States composing the
Union. Those, therefore, who had been born and resided always in the District
of Columbia or in the Territories, though within the United States, were not
citizens. Whether [p73] this proposition was sound or not had never
been judicially decided. But it had been held by this court, in the
celebrated Dred Scott case, only a few years before the
outbreak of the civil war, that a man of African descent, whether a slave or
not, was not and could not be a citizen of a State or of the United States.
This decision, while it met the condemnation of some of the ablest statesmen
and constitutional lawyers of the country, had never been overruled, and if was
to be accepted as a constitutional limitation of the right of citizenship, then
all the negro race who had recently been made freemen were still not only not
citizens, but were incapable of becoming so by anything short of an amendment
to the Constitution.
To remove this difficulty primarily, and to establish
clear and comprehensive definition of citizenship which should declare what
should constitute citizenship of the United States and also citizenship of a
State, the first clause of the first section was framed.
All persons born or naturalized in the United
States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United
States and of the State wherein they reside.
The first observation we have to make on this clause
is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject
of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the
United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it
overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born
within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United
States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can
admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was
intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and
citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.
The Slaughterhouse Cases, 83 U.S. 36, 72-73 (1873).
As we can see, the Court explained how Dred Scott
confirmed that it was not state law and state citizenship as so defined which
defined who the citizens of the United States were, but rather national law. It
explained how the Fourteenth Amendment confirmed that it was federal law that
created U.S. citizenship which then determined whether one was a citizen of
some state and that being a "citizen of the United States" was not to
be limited by race, color, or any factor other than the floor of birth in the
country while subject to its jurisdiction. For sure, in so explaining,
the Court was well aware of the ceiling of U.S. citizenship provided by the
natural born citizen clause which is birth in the country to U.S. citizen
parents and that anyone who satisfied that ceiling was without any doubt a
citizen of the United States. It then added that the jurisdiction clause
excluded from U.S. citizenship not only children born in the United States to
foreign ministers and consuls, but also those born to alien parents. Hence,
contrary to what Justice Gray said in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), the
Fourteenth Amendment did not remove any doubts regarding whether children born
in the United States to alien parents were citizens. Rather, it removed
doubts regarding who had jurisdiction to decided U.S. citizenship, the states
or the national government (it said the national government), and what law was
to decide that very important question, state or national law (it was national
law), and concerning whether free blacks could be U.S. citizens (it said they
were for they were not aliens and when born in the United States not subject to
any foreign power). And finally, according to the U.S. Supreme Court in
The Slaughterhouse Cases, the Fourteenth Amendment, through its subject to the
jurisdiction thereof clause, also confirmed that children born in the United
States to alien parents where not citizens of the United States under the
Fourteenth Amendment. The Court made no reference to race, color, or
condition of servitude in its statement that children born in the United States
to alien parents were not citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment. Rather, what disqualified these children from
U.S. birthright citizenship was alien parents.
So if a person was a natural born citizen, there was no doubt that one
was a citizen of the United States under any law. If one was born in the
United States to alien parents and hence not a natural born citizen, the
Supreme Court said that one was not a citizen of the United States, either at
common law or under the Fourteenth Amendment.
The U.S. Supreme Court in 1875 was again called upon
to determine who were the citizens and natural born citizen of the United
States. It did not look to either the
Civil Rights Act or the Fourteenth Amendment to answer that question, explaining
how citizens and natural born citizens had existed since the beginning of the
nation. Minor confirmed the common law definition of a
natural born citizen used by the Framers when they drafted and adopted the
Constitution. It said, as Dred Scott
had, that all children born in a country to parents who were its citizens were
“natives, or natural-born citizens,” and that under that common law all the
rest of the people were “aliens or foreigners,” who could be naturalized by
naturalization Acts of Congress. This
was a definition that it paraphrased from Emer de Vattel, The Law of Nations,
Section 212 (1758) (1797), where Vattel
provided the same definition of “natives, or natural-born citizens.” Even though The Slaughterhouse Cases had
already said they were not citizens of the United States, Minor opened the door
for children born in the United States to alien parents to be accepted as
citizens of the United States under the Fourteenth Amendment, by saying that
“there have been doubts” whether those children were citizens given that “some
authorities” contended that they were.
Minor observed that it was not necessary for it to resolve those doubts because
Virginia Minor, being a natural born citizen, was without any doubt a
citizen.
The unanimous U.S. Supreme Court in Minor confirmed Vattel’s
rules of the law of nations, as stated by Vattel in Section 212, 214, and 215, when
it held:
The Constitution does not in words say who shall be
natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At
common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were
familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents
who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These
were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or
foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born
within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents.
As to this class, there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the
purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is
sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of
citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.
Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875). Later in its decision, the Court went on to
explain how persons who were not born in the country to parents who were its
citizens could become citizens of the United States, either at birth or after
birth, through the naturalization Acts of Congress.
So, the high Court explained that at common law all
children born in a country to parents who were its citizens were “natives, or
natural-born citizens” and that all the rest of the people who were not natural
born citizens were “aliens or foreigners,” who could be naturalized under that
nation’s positive laws (as Vattel explained in Section 214). We can readily see that the Court
paraphrased the definition of “natives, or natural-born citizens” provided by
Vattel in Section 212 of The Law of Nations.
As we can also see from what Minor explained, this law of nations
definition became part of the common law, which could only be American national
common law and not the English common law, which did not require that children
born in the King’s dominion be born to English subject parents. On the contrary, as we saw from Vattel’s
Section 214, the English common law automatically naturalized at birth children
born in the country to alien parents.[7]
Our nation has also adopted Vattel’s explanations on
expatriation, which was rejected by the English common law, and his
explanations on a nation’s right to decide for itself who shall be admitted to
its territory and under what circumstances. [8]
We know that U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) resolved
the doubts raised by Minor (who else can be a “citizen” by birth in the
country) by holding that those children were “citizens” of the United States at
birth by virtue of the Fourteenth Amendment (not to be conflated, confounded,
and confused with the ceiling of national character provided by the “natural
born citizen” clause). A plain reading
of the Court’s holding shows that it held that Wong was a “citizen” of the
United States from the moment of birth and never made any mention of the clause
“natural born citizen” in its holding. Here
is the Court’s holding:
The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of
the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed
by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at
the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United
States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are
subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in
the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in
any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the
time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated,
this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative.
Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. at 705.
Wong Kim Ark confirmed Minor’s definition of a
natural born citizen and held, with the colonial English common law providing
it guidance on how to interpret and apply “subject to the jurisdiction” and not
as an aid to define a natural born citizen, and also by adding the conditions
of domicile and permanent residency to the jus soli (right from the soil) rule
of the English common law, that a child born in the United States to alien
parents who were domiciled and permanently residing in the United States and
neither foreign diplomats nor military invaders was born subject to the jurisdiction
of the United States, i.e., subject to its laws, and therefore a “citizen” of
the United States from the moment of birth, but only by virtue of the
Fourteenth Amendment. With the Court
requiring that those alien parents be subject to the laws of the United States,
it is doubtful that the Court would benefit those aliens in the country
illegally or temporarily with any right to pass on to their children the right
to be a U.S. citizen by birth in the United States.
Wong Kim Ark did not hold that Wong was a natural
born citizen nor could it so hold, for the Court itself confirmed that a
natural born citizen was a child born in the country to parents who were its
citizens. Wong Kim Ark confirmed and
accepted Minor’s definition of a natural born citizen, not only when it cited
Minor and quoted its definition of a natural born citizen, but also when it
said: “The child of an alien, if born in
the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and
by operation of the same principle. Wong Kim Ark, at 665 (citing and quoting
Horace Binney, “Alienigenae of the United States,“ p. 22, note, December 1,
1853, 2nd ed.). Justice Gray
explained: “This paper, without Mr.
Binney's name and with the note in a less complete form and not containing the
passage last cited, was published (perhaps from the first edition) in the
American Law Register for February, 1854. 2 Amer.Law Reg.193, 203, 204.”
Justice Gray accepted the distinction that Binney made between a child born in
the country to citizen parents who Binney called a “natural born” citizen and a
child born in the country to alien parents who he called a “citizen” without
any adjective. By adopting Binney’s
quote, Justice Gray told us that he saw a difference between a child born in
the United States to citizen parents who he called "natural born"
citizen and a child born in the United States to alien parents who he called a
"citizen” of the United States under the Fourteenth Amendment, and said
that it was birth in the country that made them both citizens. To defend
his position that it was birth in the country that made them both citizens, he
explained that for those born out of the United States, it was only a
naturalization Act of Congress that made them citizens, without which those
children would be aliens.[9] Hence, how Binney and Minor defined a natural
born citizen were the same and Justice Gray accepted the definition both
provided.
When it came to defining a
natural born citizen, Chief Justice Fuller and Justice Harlan also cited and
quoted Vattel thus:
Before the Revolution, the
view of the publicists had been thus put by Vattel:
"The natives, or
natural-born citizens, are those born in the country of parents who are
citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of
their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to
desire this in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation, and it is
presumed as matter of course that each citizen, on entering into society,
reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of
the fathers is therefore that of the children, and these become true citizens
merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to
the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to
the society in which they were born. I say that, in order to be of the country,
it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he
is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not
his country."
Book I, c.19, § 212.
"The true bond which
connects the child with the body politic is not the matter of an inanimate
piece of land, but the moral relations of his parentage. . . . The place of
birth produces no change in the rule that children follow the condition of
their fathers, for it is not naturally the place of birth that gives rights, but
extraction."
And to the same effect are
the modern writers.
Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. at
708 (Fuller, C.J. dissenting).
So, when Minor and Wong Kim Ark are read in tandem,
we can see that Minor defined a common law Article II “natural born citizen”
and Wong Kim Ark defined a Fourteenth Amendment “born citizen,” (there are also
“born citizens” under Congressional naturalization Acts) which are two separate
and distinct classes of U.S. citizenships.
It has been said by
some who have misinterpreted Vattel in Section 212 of The Law of Nations that it was not birth in
the country to citizen parents, but rather only a citizen father that was
necessary for one to be a natural born citizen.
They come to this conclusion because after Vattel defined a natural born
citizen as being born in the country to citizen parents he said: “As
the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children
of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their
fathers, and succeed to all their rights. . . . The country of the fathers is
therefore that of the children, and these become true citizens merely by their
tacit consent. . . . I say that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary
that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of
a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country." But this language cannot serve as a
basis for coming to the conclusion that a citizen father is all that is
required to be a natural born citizen.
Vattel first defined
a natural born citizen as being born in the country to citizen “parents.” Most clearly, Vattel in his definition of a
natural born citizen said, born in the country and born to citizen “parents,”
not citizen “father.” If birth could
occur anywhere, Vattel would not have said born in the country. Also, if he meant to say just citizen father,
it would have been easy for him to simply say so rather than using the word “parents”
in this definition of a natural born citizen.
Vattel did go on to explain that
the child had to be born to a citizen father.
But requiring that the child be born to a citizen father did not mean that
it was sufficient for the child to be born only to a citizen father or to just
one citizen parent. Vattel did not
express the idea that it was sufficient for the child to be a natural born
citizen to be born in the country to only one parent who was a citizen. Rather, while at the time that Vattel wrote
his treatise it was sufficient for a child born in the country to a citizen
father to be a natural born citizen, that was only because having a citizen
father meant that the child also had a citizen mother. Under the common law doctrine of coverture,
when a woman married a man, she automatically took on his citizenship and they
both thereafter held the same citizenship and allegiance. Also, at common law, “children” meant
legitimate children. Hence, requiring
that a child be born to a citizen father was the equivalent to requiring that a
child be born to married citizen parents.
It was only by being born in the country to two citizen parents that no
foreign nation could lay claim to the child’s allegiance and citizenship
through either jus sanguinis (right of blood or inheritance of citizenship from
one’s parents) or jus jus soli (right from the soil or acquisition of
citizenship by being born in a country).
So, for the Framers,
it was sufficient that a child be born in the country to a citizen father to
make that child a natural born citizen, for under the common law doctrine of
coverture, that meant that the child was born in the country to citizen
parents. This was the original definition
of a natural born citizen. Of course,
the Framers had no idea that Congress would pass a law in 1922 (the Cable Act)
which broke the wife’s allegiance and citizenship away from her husband. Congress did not provide that an alien
husband became a U.S. citizen upon marrying a U.S. citizen wife. Of course, this statute did not nor could it
amend the Constitution and its original definition of a natural born citizen
which required birth in the country to citizen parents, which then was achieved
through a citizen father. Rather, this law just changed the means or
mechanism by which that requirement was to be met. Each man and woman would
have to satisfy all applicable laws on their own in order to be citizens of the
United States.
For the Founders and
Framers and for many years thereafter, marriage of a woman to a U.S. citizen
husband was enough for both to become U.S. citizens. The Framers never saw an alien husband
becoming a U.S. citizen upon marrying a U.S. citizen wife. For Congress in later years, marriage was no
longer sufficient for an alien woman to become a U.S. citizen. Rather, the wife would now have to go through
her own naturalization process if not a citizen of the United States. The Framers saw one mechanism for becoming a
natural born citizen which was based on the common law doctrine of
coverture. By abrogating the common law
doctrine of coverture, Congress changed that mechanism. But still the original status of a father and
mother being both citizens could be achieved by an alien woman marrying a
citizen husband.
All U.S. Supreme
Court cases both before and after Minor that have provided a definition of a
natural born citizen have used the word citizen “parents” and never just
citizen “father” and rightfully so.
Justice Daniel in his concurring opinion in Dred Scott even went as far
as to remove “fathers” and replaced it with “parents.” Being born in the country to two citizen
parents, citizenship and allegiance in a foreign country was cut off, for no
nation could claim it either through jus soli (right of the soil) or through
jus sanguinis (right of the blood).
Of course, people
who are natural born citizens are all human and citizens. But not all humans
are natural born citizens nor even just citizens. Also, not all citizens are
natural born citizens. Under U.S. law
today, the difference between humans, citizens, and natural born citizens is
that only those who are born in the country to parents who were its citizens
are natural born citizens. Those who do not have those birth circumstances, but
who are still citizens under some positive law (e.g., the Fourteenth Amendment,
naturalization Act of Congress, or treaty) are citizens. Those who are neither
natural born citizens (not born in the country to citizen parents) nor citizens
(they do not satisfy the Fourteenth Amendment, naturalization Act of Congress,
or treaty) are just humans. Race, color,
or religion do not play any role in establishing any of those categories.
So, first there were
citizens. Then naturally there were natural born citizens, who were their
descendants born in the country. Being a
citizen meant one was a member of a political or civil society which was called
a country or nation. The first citizens were those who made that society.
Other citizens that followed were persons made citizens by the country's
positive laws. A natural born citizen (not to be conflated, confounded,
and confused with a citizen) was a child born in the county to parents who were
its citizens. As can be seen, race, color, and religion, had nothing to
do with the definition of being a natural born citizen. The barrier that
has existed in the United States in the past had been one about who was to be
accepted as a citizen, not as a natural born citizen.
All things in nature
perpetuate themselves through a process provided by nature itself. Nothing outside of nature itself is needed
for that thing to perpetuate itself. Man
can add to that natural process by introducing what we call artificial
agents. But by doing so, man is not
changing the natural process, but rather only adding to it. Vattel, who greatly influenced the Founders
and Framers, explained that as a natural and moral person, a nation too needed
to perpetuate itself if it were to survive as conceived. He saw a nation not only surviving but also
perpetuating itself through the love that its members gave to it. He also saw that it was parents, both father
and mother, who taught that love of country to their children on the most
fundamental and powerful level. Indeed,
Vattel did not see love of country emanating from a child being born in any
particular place, but rather from a child’s citizen parents who instill love of
their country in their child through education and rearing from the moment of
birth.
The natural born
citizen clause is not about pretend fairness or egalitarianism. The natural born citizen clause provides a
constitutional bright-line and objective test for Presidential and
Vice-Presidential eligibility. That
objective test is basically to ask whether the presidential candidate was born
or reputed born in the United States to parents who were both U.S. citizens at
the time of the person’s birth. When
voting for a President, voters cannot constitutionally vote for a person who is
not a natural born citizen, just like they cannot constitutionally vote for one
who is not at least 35 years old and at least 14 years a resident within the
United States. On the other hand, voting
for an eligible President is a subjective act done by the voters and their
choice is not to be questioned from a constitutional standpoint.
Let us now apply
these principles to de facto President, Barack Obama. Obama was presumably born in the United
States to a U.S. citizen mother. But he
was born to an alien father (British and then Kenyan upon Kenya’s independence
from Great Britain). He was born in
allegiance to the United States and to Great Britain and then Kenya. He is therefore not a natural born
citizen. Race, color, or religion has
nothing to do with this conclusion.
Let us now apply
these principles to Ted Cruz. Cruz
concedes that he was born in a foreign country (Canada). While he was born to a U.S. citizen mother,
he also concedes that he was born to an alien father (Cuban). He barely became a citizen and only under a
naturalization Act of Congress. Not
until 1934 could someone born under such birth circumstances be a citizen, let
alone a natural born citizen. Cruz was
born with allegiance to the United States, Canada, and Cuba. Hence, he is not a natural born citizen.
Race, color, or religion has nothing to do with this conclusion.
Let us now apply
these principles to Marco Rubio. He
concedes that he was born in the United States to a father and mother who were
both aliens (they were Cuban). Not until the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1898
in its Wong Kim Ark decision that persons like Rubio born in the United States
to alien parents were citizens of the United States under the Fourteenth
Amendment did someone like Rubio become a citizen of the United States (not to
be confused with a citizen of a state).
So, while Rubio can be a citizen of the United States, it is only by
virtue of the Fourteenth Amendment. Rubio
was born with allegiance to the United States and Cuba. He is therefore not a natural born citizen. Race, color, or religion has nothing to do
with this conclusion.
Trump is right.
Both Cruz and Rubio are not eligible to be President.
We come to the same
conclusion with respect to Bobby Jindal and Nikkie Haley. They
were born in the United States, but to two alien parents (both their parents
were Asian Indian). They have the same
status as Rubio. They were born with allegiance to the United
States and India. They are therefore not
natural born citizens. Race, color, or
religion has nothing to do with this conclusion.
Barack Obama, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal,
and Nikkie Haley are humans. They are also all (assuming Obama was born in the
U.S.) citizens (all citizens only by virtue of the Fourteenth Amendment, except
for Cruz who is a citizen only by virtue of a naturalization Act of Congress). None
of them were born in the country to two parents who were its citizens at the
time of their child’s birth. None of them were born with sole allegiance to the
United States. None of them are natural
born citizens. Race, color, or religion
has nothing to do with this conclusion. Hence, being neither a natural born citizen
nor a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the
Constitution, none of them are eligible to the office of President.
After its framing and ratification, the Constitution
prescribed who could be citizens and who could be natural born citizens. Because of the constitution’s limitation on
who could be a citizen, it took the Civil War, the Civil Rights Act of 1866,
and the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments to make free blacks citizens of
the United States. It will not take
another civil war to change the definition of a natural born citizen which
would allow people like Obama, Cruz, Rubio, Jindal, and Haley to be elected
President or Vice-President. But it will
take at least another constitutional amendment.
Professor Epps needs to go back and rethink his
entire race-based premise and unjust accusation against Donald Trump.
Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
February 29, 2016
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[1] Professor
Garrett Epps is a contributing writer for The Atlantic Online .
He teaches constitutional law and writing for law students at the University of
Baltimore School of Law which he joined in 2008. His latest book is American Justice 2014:
Nine Clashing Visions on the Supreme Court.
[2] A monarchy is a form of
government in which sovereignty is actually or nominally
embodied in one individual reigning until death or abdication.
They are called monarchs.[1] Forms of monarchy differ
widely based on the level of legal autonomy the monarch holds in governance,
the method of selection of the monarch, and any predetermined limits on the
length of their tenure. When the monarch has no or few legal restraints in
state and political matters, it is called an absolute monarchy, and
is a form of autocracy. Cases in which the monarch's discretion is
formally limited, either by law or by convention, is called a constitutional
monarchy. In hereditary monarchies, the office is passed
through inheritance within a family group, whereas elective monarchies use
some system of voting. Each of these has variations: in some elected monarchies
only those of certain pedigrees are eligible, whereas many hereditary
monarchies impose requirements regarding the religion, age, gender, mental
capacity, and other factors. Occasionally this might create a situation of
rival claimants whose legitimacy is subject to effective election.
Finally, there have been cases where the term of a monarch's reign is
either fixed in years or continues until certain goals are achieved: an
invasion being repulsed, for instance. Thus there are widely divergent
structures and traditions defining monarchy.
(emphasis in the original) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy
.
[3] A republic (from Latin: res publica) is a sovereign state or
country[1] which
is organised with a form of government in which power resides in
elected individuals representing the citizen body[2][3] and
government leaders exercise power according to the rule of law. In modern
times, the definition of a republic is commonly limited to a government which
excludes a monarch.[3][4] Currently,
147 of the world's 206 sovereign states use the word
"republic" as part of their official names; not all of these are
republics in the sense of having elected governments, nor do all nations with
elected governments use the word "republic" in their names.
Both
modern and ancient republics vary widely in their ideology and composition. In
the classical and medieval period of Europe, many states were
fashioned on the Roman Republic, which referred to the governance of the
city of Rome, between it having kings and emperors. The Italian medieval and Renaissance political
tradition, today referred to as "civic humanism", is sometimes
considered to derive directly from Roman republicans such as Sallust and Tacitus.
However, Greek-influenced Roman authors, such as Polybius[5] and Cicero,
sometimes also used the term as a translation for the Greek politeia which
could mean regime generally, but could also be applied to certain specific
types of regime which did not exactly correspond to that of the Roman Republic.
Republics were not equated with classical democracies such as Athens, but
had a democratic aspect.
Republics
became more common in the Western world starting in the late 18th century,
eventually displacing absolute monarchy as the most common form of
government in Europe. In modern republics the executive is legitimized both by
a constitution and by popular suffrage. Montesquieu included
in his work "The Spirit of the Laws" both democracies, where all
the people have a share in rule, and aristocracies or oligarchies,
where only some of the people rule, as republican forms of government.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
.
[4] In 1673,
Pufendorf wrote, “De jure naturae et gentium libri octo,” or “The Law of Nature
and Nations: Eight Books,” published in
condensed form as “The Duty of Man and Citizen According to Natural Law.” There
he explained:
13. The state being thus constituted, the central
authority, according as it is one man, or one council of the few, or of all, is
called a monarch, a senate, or a free people. The rest are styled subjects, or
citizens, understanding the latter term in its wider sense. There are some,
however, who, in a narrower sense, usually call only those citizens, who by
their union and consent formed the state in the first place, or else their
successors, namely, the heads of households.
Moreover, citizens are either original or adopted. The former are those
who were present in the beginning at the birth of the state, or their
descendants. These it is the custom also to call indigenous. The adopted
citizens are those who from without join themselves to a state already constituted,
with the purpose of planting the seat of their fortunes there. As for those who
sojourn in the state, merely to tarry for a time, though subject just so long
to its authority, they are still not regarded as citizens, but are called
strangers or immigrants.
Samuel von Pufendorf, De Officio Hominis et Civis Juxta Legem Naturalem , The Whole Duty of Man According to the Law
of Nature (1673), trans. Andrew Tooke, ed. Ian Hunter and David
Saunders, with Two Discourses and a Commentary by Jean Barbeyrac, trans. David
Saunders, Book II, Chapter VI (Indianapolis: Liberty Fund, 2003).
4/5/2015. http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/888
.
John
Locke, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, and Denis Diderot all recommended
that Pufendorf's teachings be included into law curricula. He greatly
influenced Blackstone and Montesquieu. Through these thinkers, Pufendorf became familiar to Alexander
Hamilton, James Madison, and Thomas Jefferson. Pufendorf’s political concepts are part of
the culture that produced the American Revolution. Clifton E. Olmstead, History of Religion
in the United States 89 (1960).
[5] “Ancient Greece
was composed of a number of city states, each one independent of the other and
conferring certain privileges upon its subjects. The greatest advantages of
citizenship among these city states was conferred by the Athenians, limited,
however, to native sons of native fathers and mothers, excluding from such
privileges foreigners and slaves.”
TRAINING MANUAL } WAR DEPARTMENT,
No. 2000-25 } WASHINGTON, November 30, 1928.CITIZENSHIP. http://www.constitution.org/mil/tm/tm_2000-25/tm_2000-25.htm
Aristotle
explained that citizenship came from both parents. In “Politics, Book Three, Part II, Aristotle,
writing in 350 B.C.E., as translated by Benjamin Jowett, gave us his definition
of citizenship:
Part II
But in practice a citizen is defined to be one of whom both the parents are citizens; others insist on going further back; say to two or three or more ancestors. This is a short and practical definition but there are some who raise the further question: How this third or fourth ancestor came to be a citizen? Gorgias of Leontini, partly because he was in a difficulty, partly in irony, said- 'Mortars are what is made by the mortar-makers, and the citizens of Larissa are those who are made by the magistrates; for it is their trade to make Larissaeans.' Yet the question is really simple, for, if according to the definition just given they shared in the government, they were citizens. This is a better definition than the other. For the words, 'born of a father or mother who is a citizen,' cannot possibly apply to the first inhabitants or founders of a state.
There is a greater difficulty in the case of those who have been made citizens after a revolution, as by Cleisthenes at Athens after the expulsion of the tyrants, for he enrolled in tribes many metics, both strangers and slaves. The doubt in these cases is, not who is, but whether he who is ought to be a citizen; and there will still be a furthering the state, whether a certain act is or is not an act of the state; for what ought not to be is what is false. Now, there are some who hold office, and yet ought not to hold office, whom we describe as ruling, but ruling unjustly. And the citizen was defined by the fact of his holding some kind of rule or office- he who holds a judicial or legislative office fulfills our definition of a citizen. It is evident, therefore, that the citizens about whom the doubt has arisen must be called citizens.
But in practice a citizen is defined to be one of whom both the parents are citizens; others insist on going further back; say to two or three or more ancestors. This is a short and practical definition but there are some who raise the further question: How this third or fourth ancestor came to be a citizen? Gorgias of Leontini, partly because he was in a difficulty, partly in irony, said- 'Mortars are what is made by the mortar-makers, and the citizens of Larissa are those who are made by the magistrates; for it is their trade to make Larissaeans.' Yet the question is really simple, for, if according to the definition just given they shared in the government, they were citizens. This is a better definition than the other. For the words, 'born of a father or mother who is a citizen,' cannot possibly apply to the first inhabitants or founders of a state.
There is a greater difficulty in the case of those who have been made citizens after a revolution, as by Cleisthenes at Athens after the expulsion of the tyrants, for he enrolled in tribes many metics, both strangers and slaves. The doubt in these cases is, not who is, but whether he who is ought to be a citizen; and there will still be a furthering the state, whether a certain act is or is not an act of the state; for what ought not to be is what is false. Now, there are some who hold office, and yet ought not to hold office, whom we describe as ruling, but ruling unjustly. And the citizen was defined by the fact of his holding some kind of rule or office- he who holds a judicial or legislative office fulfills our definition of a citizen. It is evident, therefore, that the citizens about whom the doubt has arisen must be called citizens.
[6] Citizenship in
ancient Rome was defined as follows:
Civitas,
plural Civitates, citizenship in ancient Rome. Roman citizenship was acquired
by birth if both parents were Roman citizens (cives), although one of them,
usually the mother, might be a peregrinus(“alien”) with connubium (the right to
contract a Roman marriage). Otherwise, citizenship could be granted by the
people, later by generals and emperors. "civitas". Encyclopædia
Britannica. Encyclopædia Britannica Online.
Encyclopædia Britannica Inc., 2015. Web. 12 Jul. 2015.
[7] Lord Coke in famous
English case of Calvin's Case (1608) and later English authorities believed
that birth conferred the right to naturalization for those children who were
born to alien parents in the King's dominion and under his allegiance and
protection.
Lord
Coke wrote:
"it
followeth that Calvin the plaintiff being born under one ligeance to one King,
cannot be an alien born; and there is great reason, that the law of nature
should direct this case, wherein five natural operations are remarkable: first
the King hath the Crown of England by birthright; being naturally procreated of
the blood royal of this realm: secondly, Calvin the plaintiff naturalized by
procreation and birth-right."
Lord
Coke in Calvin's Case naturalized Calvin at birth and made him an English
"natural-born subject."
Richard Wooddeson, 3rd Vinerian Professor of
English Common Law from 1777 to 1793, recognized
that mere birth in the country to alien parents under English common law
conferred the birthright to naturalization.
[8]
The allegiance of a natural-born British subject is regarded by the Common Law
as indelible. We are of opinion that this doctrine of the Common Law is neither
reasonable nor convenient. It is at variance with those principles on which the
rights and duties of a subject should be deemed to rest; it conflicts with that
freedom of action which is now recognized as most conducive to the general
good, as well as to individual happiness and prosperity, and it is especially
inconsistent with the practice of a State which allows to its subjects absolute
freedom of emigration.
***
But
from the Declaration of Independence to this day, the United States have
rejected the doctrine of indissoluble allegiance and maintained the general
right of expatriation, to be exercised in subordination to the public interests
and subject to regulation.
***
The
subject was examined at length in 1856, in an opinion given the Secretary of
State by Attorney General Cushing, 8 Opins.Attys.Gen. 139, where the views of
the writers on international law and those expressed in cases in the Federal
and state courts are largely set forth, and the Attorney General says:
The
doctrine of absolute and perpetual allegiance, the root of the denial of any
right of emigration, is inadmissible in the United States. It was a matter
involved in, and settled for us by, the Revolution which founded the American
Union.
Moreover,
the right of expatriation, under fixed circumstances of time and of manner,
being expressly asserted in the legislatures of several of the States and
confirmed by decisions of their courts, must be considered as thus made a part
of the fundamental law of the United States.
Expatriation
included not simply the leaving of one's native country, but the becoming
naturalized in the country adopted as a future residence. The emigration which
the United States encouraged was that of those who could become incorporate
with its people, make its flag their own, and aid in the accomplishment of a
common destiny, and it was obstruction to such emigration that made one of the
charges against the Crown in the Declaration. [p713]
***
In
1859, Attorney General Black thus advised the President (9 Op. 356):
The
natural right of every free person who owes no debts and is not guilty of any
crime to leave the country of his birth in good faith and for an honest
purpose, the privilege of throwing off his natural allegiance and substituting
another allegiance in its place -- the general right, in one word, of
expatriation, is incontestable. I know that the common law of England denies
it, that the judicial decisions of that country are opposed to it, and that
some of our own courts, misled by British authority, have expressed, though not
very decisively, the same pinion. But all this is very far from settling the
question. The municipal code of England is not one of the sources from which we
derive our knowledge of international law. We take it from natural reason and
justice, from writers of known wisdom, and from the practice of civilized
nations. All these are opposed to the doctrine of perpetual allegiance.
In
the opinion of the Attorney General, the United States, in recognizing the
right of expatriation, declined from the beginning to accept the view that
rested the obligation of the citizen on feudal principles, and proceeded on the
law of nations, which was in direct conflict therewith.
And
the correctness of this conclusion was specifically affirmed not many years
after, when the right, as the natural and inherent right of all people and
fundamental in this country, was declared by Congress in the act of July 27,
1838, 15 Stat. 223, c. 249, carried forward into sections 1999 and 2000 of the
Revised Statutes, in 1874. [p714]
It is beyond dispute that the most vital constituent
of the English common law rule has always been rejected in respect of
citizenship of the United States.
Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 711-714(1898) (Fuller,
C.J. dissenting).
[9] With respect to children born out of the
United States, United States v. Perkins, 17 Fed. Supp. 177 (D.D.C. 1936); Schaufus
v. Attorney General, 45 Fed. Supp. 61 (1942); Zimmer v. Acheson, 191 Fed.2d 209
(10th Cir. 1951); Montana v. Kennedy, 366 U.S. 308 (1961); Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971); and Miller
v. Albright, 523 U.S. 420 (1998), later all observed the same. They all said that such children could be
citizens of the United States only through a naturalization Act of Congress,
and that without such Act, such children would be aliens.
"Donald Trump is not redefining the meaning of a natural born citizen. Rather, he is only recognizing what that meaning is. Allow me to explain."
ReplyDeleteI'm confident that this isn't news to you, Mr, Apuzzo -- but (to reference my own blog): if your US citizenship can be affected by an Act of Congress, then you are not a natural born US citizen
IIion,
ReplyDeleteAs I have for long maintained, under the law of nations and thus common law definition of the clause relied upon by the Framers when they drafted and adopted the Constitution, a citizen was simply a member of a country or nation, with the status acquired by any means recognized and accepted by that country or nation. In contradistinction, a natural born citizen was a child born or reputed born in a country to parents who were its citizens at the time of the child's birth. A natural born citizen was a citizen of that country or nation from the moment of birth by virtue of these birth circumstances alone. A natural born citizen did not need any law to be a citizen, like a natural child needed no law to be recognized the natural child of his or her natural father and mother. Persons not born under such birth circumstances, being "foreigners or aliens" at common law, in order to be citizens of a country or nation, needed the aid of some positive law which would naturalize them to be citizens (not to be conflated, confounded, or confused with the natural born citizens) either from the moment of birth or after birth. See Emer de Vattel, The Law of Nations, Sec. 212-217 (1758) (1797); Minor v. Happersett (1875) (unanimous decision of the U.S. Supreme Court).
The Framers incorporated these definitions of a citizen and natural born citizen into the Constitution, elevating these statuses to the national level. Hence, while they recognized state citizens, so made under local state common law which borrowed from the colonial English common law, they saw these statuses as existing on a national and thus uniform level and not merely in any one or several states. Hence, in Article I and II, they provided for a citizen and a natural born citizen "of the United States," so recognized by the law of nations, American national common law, and ultimately the U.S. Constitution, and in Article III and IV they provided for a citizen of a state so recognized by the laws of that particular state and also ultimately by the U.S. Constitution.
Obama, Cruz, Rubio, Jindal, and Haley are all not natural born citizens of the United States. None of them are citizens only by virtue of being born in the United States to U.S. citizen parents. Obama, Rubio, Jindal, and Haley all need the Fourteenth Amendment to be citizens. Without the Fourteenth Amendment, they could be citizens of the state in which they were born, but not a citizen of the United States, let alone a natural born citizen of the United States. Cruz needs a naturalization Act of Congress to be a citizen of the United States. Being born in a foreign country, without that Act, Cruz would not even be a citizen of any state, let alone a natural born citizen. He would be an alien.
Being neither "a natural born Citizen, [n]or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution," none of them are eligible to be President.
" Obama, Rubio, Jindal, and Haley all need the Fourteenth Amendment to be citizens."
ReplyDeleteI'm not convinced that the Fourteenth Amendment does that.
Look at the actual wording of the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment as compared to the other sentences -- "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." contrasted to "No state shall ..."
Everyone admits that the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to extent US citizenship the then living black Americans. No one (any longer) seems to grasp that a Cuban born on US soil in 1971 (or Mexican born on US soil in 2016) is *not* a black American alive in 1868.
IIion,
ReplyDeleteMay I recommend that you read U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) and the many cases that followed that touch upon the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Ah, yes, Wong Kim Ark (1898). The thirty years later reinterpretation.
ReplyDeleteBut, wait! Where, exactly, does the Constitution give the supreme Court (the capitalization is intentional) the power to interpretation, much less to reinterpretation, the Constitution?
In fact, does not the Constitution make the supreme Court (and all federal courts) to be a creature of Congress? For, after all, "... In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."
"if...then..." and "...born..."
ReplyDelete1/
Mario,
Your current post, The Framers’ Definition of a Natural Born Citizen Is Not Based on Race, Color, or Religion is filled with a "whole lotta" meaty morsels, but your "gravy" is good too. You have mentioned the "gravy" before, but I mention it here to tie it in with Illion's comment, "... if your US citizenship can be affected by an Act of Congress, then you are not a natural born US citizen" and to tie it in with my John Jay related emphasis on the connection between the words "born" and "Citizen" in "natural born Citizen."
The "gravy" in your post is the clear conclusion in the penultimate paragraph which I open up here to emphasize the bold points:
>> Obama, Cruz, Rubio, Jindal, and Haley are all not natural born citizens of the United States.
>> None of them are citizens only by virtue of being born in the United States to U.S. citizen parents.
>> Obama, Rubio, Jindal, and Haley all need the Fourteenth Amendment to be citizens.
>> Without the Fourteenth Amendment,
>> they could be citizens of the state in which they were born,
>> but not a citizen of the United States,
>> let alone a natural born citizen of the United States.
>> "Cruz needs a naturalization Act of Congress
>> to be a citizen of the United States.
>> Being born in a foreign country,
>> without the Act,
>> Cruz would not even be a citizen of any state,
>> let alone a natural born citizen.
>> He would be an alien."
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Here are some questions for all "natural born Citizen" new meaning neobirthers in 2016 America tied in with Illion's "if...then" coherent and cogent comment:
>> "... if your US citizenship can be affected
>> by an Act of Congress,
>> then you are not
>> a natural born US citizen"
When John Jay underlined the word "born" in "natural born Citizen" in his July 25, 1787 note to his friend George Washington, did Jay mean "born" ONLY in the United States OR "born" anywhere on earth?
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ReplyDeleteFor "nbC" new meaning neobirthers who say that the framers and ratifiers of 1700s America did not define the original intent of "born" in the eligibility clause 5 in Article II Section 1, so that is why they are willing to give Sen. Cruz and Sen. Rubio the benefit of the doubt, here are some helpful clarifying questions.
What did the word "Citizen" mean to the 1787 framers? The framer's language was eventually accepted without debate or disagreement by the ratifiers of the several states.
Did "Citizen" mean a "citizen" of ONLY the United States or a "citizen" of any nation on earth?
Well, obviously, the ONLY original intent meaning in 1787 America, only four years after the war of independence was ended at the 1783 Treaty of Paris of which John Jay was a signatory, would be that the "Citizen" could ONLY mean a "citizen" of the United States alone and NOT a "citizen" of ANY other nation on earth alone.
Common sense, right?
Yes.
See, "natural born Citizen" by birth alone can mean ONLY singular U.S. citizenship, NOT either/or, not either a "citizen" of another nation "alone" or a "citizen" with dual U.S./foreign citizenship.
Right?
Yes.
"if...then..." and "...born..."
Since September 17, 1787 when the Constitution's language was adopted by the framers and sent to the states to be ratified, If a person is born ONLY on U.S. soil and born ONLY to two U.S. citizen married parents, then that person is a U.S. natural born citizen by birth alone and has ONLY singular U.S. citizenship which can NOT be affected by an Act of Congress.
Art
Original-Genesis-Original-Intent.blogspot.com
If my mother had been a French citizen when I was born, I am sure I would have absorbed a certain amount of French sentiment from her and perhaps mannerisms associated with the French. I might even have learned French automatically. Visiting France I would have felt a certain claim on the nation. I would probably have felt at times that I was French! This should be obvious. If I had been born in Germany to American citizen parents who were living there for business reasons, I would no doubt have absorbed a certain amount of German life. Thus I might feel a bit German later on when visiting that nation. As it was my parents were citizen of Irish descent so I did have some feeling for Ireland but not too much. When I visited Ireland I did not feel like an Irish citizen. It is possible that my great grandparents immigrated to the USA but not my grandparents. So the tie is rather faint. Evidently this sort of reflection is absent in those who can not grasp the very clear reason for the "natural born citizen" requirement which seeks to obviate ties to another nation that parents or place of birth would confer.
ReplyDeletePresently and for quite some time Americans have been very concerned about unfairness. I am sure this strict requirement for president has some feeling if not thinking that certain citizens are being unfairly treated. At the same time we have computers which require very precise entries in order to get the right results. It should not be too hard for the average person to grasp the meaning of the expression natural born citizen as well as why it was deemed important and why it might still be. There is always the road to amendment. There has been plenty of time for that to have proceeded. I can only conclude that educated persons who just can not see the matter clearly have real emotional blocks in the way. Still it does seem a bit puzzling. Additionally nationalism is being seen as a rather bad thing while globalism is the bright future. So this may be a secondary factor.
"... Illion's "if...then" coherent and cogent comment ..."
ReplyDelete:) I am a computer programmer. For 35+ years, I have been earning my daily bread by breaking down problems into "if ... then" sub-problems.
Donald Trump's mother was Scottish. When did she become a citizen? Is there a problem with Trump's eligibility?
ReplyDeleteMario,
ReplyDeleteIf Donald Trump's mother was Scottish, when did she become a citizen?
Is his eligibility in question?
MA, esq: "Obama, Rubio, Jindal, and Haley all need the Fourteenth Amendment to be citizens."
ReplyDeleteme: "I'm not convinced that the Fourteenth Amendment does that.
...
Everyone admits that the purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to extent US citizenship the then living black Americans. No one (any longer) seems to grasp that a Cuban born on US soil in 1971 (or Mexican born on US soil in 2016) is *not* a black American alive in 1868."
MA, esq: "May I recommend that you read U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) and the many cases that followed that touch upon the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment."
You know, it's too bad that Chester Arthur didn't think to try this approach; then he wouldn't have had to lie about when his father was naturalized.
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quoting from U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898): "It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.
III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established."
The assertion is clearly not true. For, after all the whole *reason* for the drafting and ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment was to extend US citizenship to black Americans -- until 1868, black Americans were still not even US citizens, much less natural born citizens, despite that they and their had ancestors lived in these shores for upwards of two hundred years.
MA, esq: "May I recommend that you read U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) ..."
ReplyDeleteme: "Ah, yes, Wong Kim Ark (1898). The thirty years later reinterpretation."
Some years ago, I had read of the opinion in the case (but never of the dissent). It was on that basis or understanding that I expressed the above negative opinion of the ruling.
In reading on your site the past few days, I have read in your writings some lengthy quotations from 'U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark' and I had started to wonder whether I had become confused about the ruling or whether I hadn't even understood it in the first place.
I see now that those (quite reasonable) quotations I have in mind are from the dissent.
Seeking Knowledge,
ReplyDeleteDid you notice during the debate how Cruz attempted to dismiss the "birthers" as at least one state judge has done by arguing the "extreme" example, wherein he said that some birthers contend that the child's parents have to be born in the United States in order for their child born to them in the United States to be a natural born citizen? He then followed that since Trump's mother was not born in the United States, Trump would not be a natural born citizen. Cruz lied again like before, when he said that he did not know that he was a citizen of Canada.
A natural born citizen is a child born in the county to parents who were its citizens at the time of the child's birth. In order for a child who is born in the United States to be a natural born citizen, his or her parents do not have to be born in the United States. They only have to be U.S. citizens, either natural born citizens of the United States or citizens of the United States, at the time of his or her child's birth.
When Trump was born in the United States in 1946, both of his parents were U.S. citizens. His father was born in the United States and was a natural born citizen. His Scottish mother naturalized to be a citizen of the United States on March 10, 1942, which is over 4 years before Trump was born. Hence, when Trump was born in the United States, his father was a natural born citizen and his mother was a citizen of the United States. That makes Trump born in the country to parents who were both U.S. citizens at the time of his birth and therefore a natural born citizen.
Trump should have set Cruz straight on his lies and distortions.
For the full details, see Mario Apuzzo, "Donald Trump Is a 'Natural Born Citizen' But Putative President Barack Obama Is Not" (March 31, 2011), available on this blog at
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/03/donald-trump-is-natural-born-citizen.html
Maine Governor Paul Lepage was asked on the howie carr radio show in Boston why he endorsed trump over Cruz and the governor said one reason is he has doubts that Cruz is a natural born citizen. He also said that he knows that his own children had to naturalize because they were born in canada. The mother was a Canadian citizen i believe. Lepage lived in Canada from 1972-79 and ran his wife's family business in new brunswick. The Governor sounded like a real person and not a phony, self serving weasel politician. It was a breath of fresh air to hear a Republican governor talk about his own children being naturalized even though their birth circumstances were the same as cruz.
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MA: "Trump should have set Cruz straight on his lies and distortions."
ReplyDeleteBut to do so would have required Trump to understand *why* Cruz is not a natural born citizen -- and just as importantly, it would have required that he care to be correct on the matter.
There’s some sort of challenge to Cruz / Rubio being on the ballot in NY. Wednesday, I submitted a request to the Court to submit an amicus brief regarding natural born Citizen. It was denied without prejudice; the Court apparently left open the possibility that if the Court should determine it has the authority to grant "the requested relief" - "the Court to direct briefing on the substantive issue" - then I may resubmit my request for Amicus brief. Mario - Thursday, I emailed you a copy.
ReplyDeleteRobert,
ReplyDeleteI got your email. Good job! Let's see what the judge does.
Robert Pilchman: "... the Court apparently left open the possibility that if the Court should determine it has the authority to grant "the requested relief" ..."
ReplyDeleteIsn't it just so odd, the things that the courts (at all levels) will assert that they have no authority to decide or assert that they do have exclusive authority to decide?
I of II
ReplyDeleteA citizen is a member of a nation originally made by associating with others to form that nation and thereafter by birth alone or by naturalization through positive law. As to those made by birth alone, they are the natural born citizens, so made by their birth circumstances alone. Those birth circumstances are birth in the county to parents who were its citizens at the time of the child's birth. As to the other citizens, they are so made by the naturalizing force of positive laws. In the United States, these positive laws are the Fourteenth Amendment, naturalization Acts of Congress, and treaties.
"Trusted" Cruz, who says he did not know until 2013 that he was a Canadian citizen, has been deceitful with the public. Cruz was born in Canada presumably to a U.S. citizen mother, but to a non-U.S. citizen father (he was Cuban). Hence, he was not born in the country to parents who were its citizens, which means that he is not a citizen through his birth circumstances alone. Therefore, he is not nor can he be a natural born citizen. Not being such a citizen, for him to be a citizen he needs the aid of a positive law. He was not born in the Untied States and so he cannot rely upon the Fourteenth Amendment. Being born in a foreign country, he must look to a naturalization Act of Congress, without which Cruz would be an alien. This means that Cruz is at best a naturalized "citizen" of the United States "at birth," so made only by a naturalization Act of Congress (in his case it is the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952). It is only because of this naturalization Act that his birth circumstances allow him to be a citizen of the United States at birth. In other words, Cruz's birth circumstances alone make him an alien and not a citizen. He therefore is not and cannot be a natural born citizen.
Cruz and his supporters proclaim that he is a natural born citizen under the Naturalization Act of 1790. First, Congress does not have the constitutional power to make anyone a natural born citizen.
Second, that Act is a naturalization Act of Congress and surely a natural born citizen does not need a naturalization Act of Congress to be a "natural" born citizen.
Continued . . .
II of II
ReplyDeleteThird, that Act only said that children born out of the United States to U.S. citizen parents (both father and mother had to be U.S. citizens) "shall be considered as natural born citizens." Hence, it only treated children born out of the United States to U.S. citizen parents for all intents and purposes as natural born citizens, meaning that it gave by statute to those children the same privileges, immunities, and rights enjoyed by true natural born citizens which under the Constitution could not include the privilege of being President.
Fourth, Congress, under the leadership of James Madison and with the approval of President Washington, repealed that Act in 1795, when it passed the Naturalization Act of 1795, which surgically removed the "shall be considered as natural born citizens" language of the 1790 Act and replaced it with "shall be considered as citizens of the United States." Congress has never again used the natural born citizen language in any of its naturalization Acts. Rather, it has since 1795 told us that any person becoming a citizen under one of its naturalization Acts is a citizen of the United States. It is amazing that those who rely upon the 1790 Act to argue that Cruz is a natural born citizen omit from their story that Congress repealed that Act in 1795 and changed its language as I have demonstrated.
Fifth, Cruz was born to an alien father which means that he could not benefit from the 1790 Act which required a U.S. citizen father. Not until 1934 could someone like Cruz, born in a foreign country to a U.S. citizen mother and alien father become a citizen of the United States. Cruz and his supporters also hide this little inconvenient truth from the public. Surely, we are not to reasonably believe that someone born under the same birth circumstances as Cruz, who was under the Constitution and under the naturalization Acts of Congress an alien from 1776 until 1934 and only become a citizen in 1934, could be a natural born citizen.
As we can see, Cruz and his supporters are not telling us the truth when they say that he is a natural born citizen. Cruz has got it wrong. His slogan should not be "Trusted." Rather, it should be "Busted."
"Second, that Act [the Naturalization Act of 1790] is a naturalization Act of Congress and surely a natural born citizen does not need a naturalization Act of Congress to be a "natural" born citizen."
ReplyDeleteIndeed, the very title of "Naturalization Act of 1790" -- to say nothing of an examination of the power by which the Congress enacted it -- makes it clean that it is an act about naturalization.
Moreover (as you point out), the Naturalization Act of 1795 *explicitly* repeals the Naturalization Act of 1790. It's not that the Naturalization Act of 1795 extends the Naturalization Act of 1790, and it's not that the Naturalization Act of 1795 *merely* replaces the Naturalization Act of 1790. No, Naturalization Act of 1795 *explicitly* repeals the Naturalization Act of 1790.
What needs to be done to get the definition of natural born citizen adjudicated? How many suits have been dismissed due to lack of standing or due to a technicality?
ReplyDeleteThe idea that a litigant must show harm before his case can be heard is very perplexing to me. Let's face it. A man could be foreign born and be a naturalized citizen and make a superb president were it not for the NBC requirement. (I have a person in mind when I say this.) Conversely, a natural born citizen could be a disaster.
I am not advocating that the NBC requirement be dispensed with. My point is that having to show harm in this case could be difficult and should not be a requirement for hearing a suit.
"Historical: Newly Discovered Evidence Of Technical And Legal Hurdles For Presidential Candidate"
ReplyDeleteRead more at http://www.birtherreport.com/2016/03/historical-newly-discovered-evidence-of.html#0pupPGcIEqJFFCfy.99
This article has some interesting information and conforms with the opinion held here. Our host has provided all the information anyone could want or need in order to form an intelligent conclusion. The problem is not an intellectual one. It is a psychological problem where apparently the political Elite prefer to leave "natural born citizen" ambiguous. This has evidently been the case for a long time.
As for Cruz, another Harvard law school graduate, we seem to be heading down the same path again with a refusal to release those documents that show Cruz to be even simply a USA citizen. What documentation was used to procure him a passport in the 1980's? Or did he use a Canadian one to go to England? It seems to me that a citizen has a right to know if the person he is voting for is qualified--but so far the courts has thought otherwise!
1) We know the scrivener James Madison when penning the Constitution took great care to carefully use words and expressions and to avoid ambiguities. He was an erudite man and a fine scholar. We can then with confidence know that "natural born citizen" has a precise meaning.
ReplyDelete2) Those legal experts who prefer a Dr Spock approach to the Constitution or a very flexible one must still accept as a fact that "natural born citizen" is not like a cloud shape that might be a face or an elephant depending on the person viewing it. The Constitution is not a Rorschach Test.
3) It should be a fairly easy thing to amend the Constitution and not necessarily take much time. However, I do not think this is the course they wish. They want to leave the Constitution open to future flexible interpretations. The idea is that laws need to adapt to the person such as perhaps Hilary Clinton and her problems. A strict interpretation of even statutes might send her to prison.
4) I notice the at least some journalists seem to believe that treaties can trump the Constitution.
Mario Apuzzo wrote:
ReplyDelete"Cruz lied again like before, when he said that he did not know that he was a citizen of Canada."
What evidence do you have the Cruz knew he was a citizen of Canada?
Somebody born under the birth circumstances of a Ted Cruz, born in a foreign country presumably to a U.S. citizen mother and to an alien father, was not even a citizen of the United States, let alone a natural born citizen of the United States, until 1934, when Congress passed a naturalization Act for the first time allowing children born out of the United States to a U.S. citizen mother and to an alien father to qualify as a citizen of the United States.
ReplyDeleteSomebody born under the birth circumstances of a Marco Rubio, born in the United States to alien parents, was not even a citizen of the United States, let alone a natural born citizen of the United States, until the 1898 U.S. Supreme Court case of U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which made such persons citizens of the United States from the moment of birth. The U.S. Supreme Court in The Slaughterhouse Cases (1873) had said they were not even citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment. Minor v Happersett (1875) had explained that "there have been doubts" whether such children were even just citizens of the United States under the Fourteenth Amendment.
Both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are defrauding the American people, telling them that they are natural born citizens of the United States when they are only citizens of the United States. The U.S. media is allowing them to get away with it as it did Barack Obama. Donald Trump needs to forcefully expose these two frauds.
evidence...
ReplyDeleteMario,
Unknown is back and asked what evidence "you" have that Sen. Cruz "...knew...was..." a citizen of Canada.
Well, Sen. Cruz himself is the best and irrefutable evidence of his knowledge of his U.S. and Canadian citizenship, aka dual U.S./foreign citizenship.
Sen. Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship derived "at" birth from his Canadian (formally Cuban) father and affirmed his U.S. citizenship statutorily derived "at" birth from his U.S. (if she did not naturalize as a Canadian) citizen mother.
Art
Original-Genesis-Original-Intent.blogspot.com
Unknown,
ReplyDeleteYou never cease to amaze me on how stupid you are. Lying Ted Cruz's Certificate of Birth No. 332834 says:
Place of Birth Calgary, Alberta
Name of Father Rafael Bienvenido Cruz
His Birthplace Matanzas, Cuba
Name of Mother Before Marriage Eleanore Elizabeth Wilson
Her Birthplace Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.
~~~~~
Generally, under Canada's Citizenship Act of 1947, those born in Canada were automatically citizens at birth unless their parent was a foreign diplomat.
So, Ted Cruz, the lawyer who graduated from Harvard Law School and who successfully argued cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, who got a passport in 1986 so that he could travel to Great Britain for a high school class trip, who is a U.S. Senator, who knew that one born in the United States while subject to its jurisdiction (which includes birth to alien parents) is a citizen of the United States, who knew that one who is born in the United States who leaves the U.S. even one minute after his birth he is still a U.S. citizen, who knew that in the United States one can get a U.S. passport by presenting a U.S. birth certificate showing that one was born in the United States, who knew that his father was born in Cuba and that his place of birth made him a Cuban citizen, who knew that his mother was born in the U.S. and that her place of birth made her a U.S. citizen, and who knew that he himself was born in Canada to parents neither of whom were foreign diplomats, but he did not know that his being born in Canada made him a Canadian citizen?
Maybe Senator Cruz, Chairman of the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Space, Science and Competitiveness, can tell us what he knows about persons born in foreign countries getting a security clearance from the U.S. Government.
It's people like you that Donald Trump has in mind when he says that our political leaders are stupid.
William St. George: "It seems to me that a citizen has a right to know if the person he is voting for is qualified--but so far the courts has thought otherwise!"
ReplyDeleteIt's even worse than that. Let's put it this way -- "[A US] citizen has a right to know [that the persons who rule and seek to rule us are always abiding by the provisions of the US Constitution]--but so far the courts have thought otherwise!"
MA, esq: "The U.S. media is allowing them to get away with it as it did Barack Obama."
ReplyDeleteIf the media were to expose Cruz and Rubio, such exposure would simultaneously expose Obama. Therefore, they will not. Much as they'd like to expose (especially) Cruz, they can not, for they cannot allow Obama's illegal occupancy of the presidency to be generally recognized.
Back when the issue of Obama's status as a natural born citizen was first raised, before he was "elected", the GOP establishment joined with the Democrats to mis-characterize -- to lie about -- the very raising of the question as "birtherism" (*). The reason the GOP did this is because they had three "golden ethnics" or their own on whom they wanted to keep open the option of running for the presidency: Cruz, Jindal, and Rubio. Of course, this was before Cruz made himself a thorn in the side of the establishment. Now they want Cruz to go away; but just as the press cannot admit the one thing that will make the threat of Cruz "go away", neither an the GOPe.
MA, esq: "Donald Trump needs to forcefully expose these two frauds."
I really don't expect that he will. So far, based on what he has said, he doesn't really understand *why* it is that they are not natural born citizens. So far, based on what he has *done*, I don't expect him to expend the effort to understand the truth of the matter.
(*) by the way, Michelle Obama herself is a "birther" -- I've seen two videos, and I still have a link to one of them, in which she expresses her belief that her -- which can only have come from him -- husband was born in Kenya.
"4) I notice the at least some journalists seem to believe that treaties can trump the Constitution."
ReplyDeleteSo long as it gets them what they want! In the end, that sort will be asserting that the Constitution is "unconstitutional".
Mario Apuzzo Esq. wrote:
ReplyDelete"So, Ted Cruz, the lawyer who graduated from Harvard Law School and who successfully argued cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, who got a passport in 1986 so that he could travel to Great Britain [...]"
Do you have evidence that it was a Canadian passport?
Mr. Apuzzo, I'm not asking how Ted Cruz could have knows he had Canadian citizenship, nor why you think he should have known. Cruz did not say he could not have know. To the best of my knowledge, he did not say he should not have known.
Mr. Apuzzo, you wrote: "Cruz lied again like before, when he said that he did not know that he was a citizen of Canada." To have ethical justification for your claim, you need actual evidence that Ted Cruz knew.
If he had made some statement indicating his awareness, that would be evidence. If he had initiated some process only available to Canadians, such as obtaining a Canadian passport, that would be evidence. What evidence do you have to justify your claim that Cruz lied when he said he had not known that he had Canadian citizenship?
I did not say it was a Canadian passport. Why do you make things up? I've presented my evidence and if you are too stupid to figure it out, that is your problem, not mine.
ReplyDeleteIlíon wrote of reading the U.S. Supreme Court's Opinion in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649 (1898) and noted:
ReplyDelete"I see now that those (quite reasonable) quotations I have in mind are from the dissent."
The Dissent in Wong is particularly relevant here because Chief Justice Fuller, joined in dissent by Associate Justice Harlan, precisely opposed the thesis of the article by Mr. Apuzzo on which we are commenting. Mr. Apuzzo states his position right in his title: "The Framers’ Definition of a Natural Born Citizen Is Not Based on Race, Color, or Religion"
The Wong Dissent disagrees with Mr. Apuzzo on that, arguing:
"Considering the circumstances surrounding the framing of the Constitution, I submit that it is unreasonable to conclude that 'natural-born citizen' applied to everybody born within the geographical tract known as the United States, irrespective of circumstances, and that the children of foreigners, happening to be born to them while passing through the country, whether of royal parentage or not, or whether of the Mongolian, Malay or other race, were eligible to the Presidency, while children of our citizens, born abroad, were not."
Chief Justice Fuller went to the framing of the Constitution, the "natural-born citizen" clause, presidential eligibility, and race.
Deplorable as we find it today, nothing is more unfair than to judge men of the past by the standards of the present[*]. Plus, Justices Fuller and Harlan do not necessarily speak for the Framers, and did not even speak for the Court in Wong, as they got out-voted 6-to-2.
([*] Barbara W. Tuchman paraphrasing Denys A. Winstanley)
Maro Apuzzo, Esq. wrote:
ReplyDelete"I did not say it was a Canadian passport."
And I did not ask you why you said this thing that you did not say. What you did was present that Cruz, "got a passport in 1986 so that he could travel to Great Britain", as evidence that Cruz lied when he said he had not known he had Canadian citizenship. So I asked, "Do you have evidence that it was a Canadian passport?" The answer is clear: You have no evidence the passport was Canadian and no evidence that Cruz lied.
Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you will offer some rationale for why getting a passport that so far as we know was not from Canada is evidence of knowledge of Canadian citizenship, as you presented it to be.
Maro Apuzzo, Esq. wrote:
"Why do you make things up?"
I made nothing up. It's right there above.
Maro Apuzzo, Esq. wrote:
"I've presented my evidence and if you are too stupid to figure it out, that is your problem, not mine."
Well obviously I figured it out. I just needed to confirm that you have no evidence before I call your accusation against Cruz the dishonest smear that it is.
I do not support Cruz, far from it. I don't know whether he was telling the truth when he claimed he had not know that he had Canadian citizenship. Maybe tomorrow evidence that he was lying will come out, but as of now, you, Esq. Apuzzo, accused a man of lying where you have evidence that he lied.
Unknown,
ReplyDeleteRegarding Chief Justice Fuller's dissent, you are reading too much into it His point was that children born in the United States to temporary "foreigners" were not natural born citizens (showing its disagreement with Lynch v. Clarke (1844), which the majority cited as support for its interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment), not that children born in the United States to parents of some particular race were not natural born citizens. Historically, if the parents were citizens, their children born to them in the United States were citizens without any doubt because those children were the "natives, or natural-born citizens." Minor v. Happersett (1875). The definition of a natural born citizen as articulated by our U.S. Supreme Court has never been driven by race, color, or religion. The pretend kindness that you exhibit toward Chief Justice Fuller and Justice Harlan by your little statement and exclusion of the Framers and the Wong Kim Ark majority from such a racial position does not improve your argument.
Furthermore, you have not told us whether you disagree with what you call my thesis that the Framers' definition of a natural born citizen is not based on race, color, or religion.
Unknown,
ReplyDeleteAs I have told you before, if you are too stupid to figure it out, I cannot help you.
Mario Apuzzo Esq. told me:
ReplyDelete"Furthermore, you have not told us whether you disagree with what you call my thesis that the Framers' definition of a natural born citizen is not based on race, color, or religion."
I told you, Mr. Apuzzo, before you even asked. I've been telling you over and over for years: The Framers did not define "natural born citizen". I told you years ago: "Beyond the three-word phrase itself and John Jay's letter with 'born' underlined, we have bupkis from the Founders, Framers and Ratifiers on the meaning of 'natural born citizen' in Article II."
I do not support your attempt to white-wash the historical issue. Founders and Framers debated in the wrong to the point of establishing a Constitution that required free states to return escaped slaves [Article IV, Section 2, Clause 3]. There is no record of the Framers injecting race into the discussion of the meaning of "natural-born citizen" because there is no record any conversation on the meaning of the term at all.
Unknown,
ReplyDeleteSo, first you say that "the Framers did not define 'natural born citizen'" and that "we have bupkis from the Founders, Framers and Ratifiers on the meaning of 'natural born citizen' in Article II," and then you say that you do not support my attempt to "white-wash the historical issue." Clearly, if you are so stupid that after all these years you have no idea how the Founders, Framers and Ratifiers defined a natural born citizen, then you are the more stupid for saying that I am "attempting to white-wash the historical issue."
^ Oh, now! Let's be charitable toward 'unknown'. Maybe he's not stupid, maybe he's just intellectually dishonest.
ReplyDeleteMario Apuzzo Esq. wrote:
ReplyDelete"So, first you say that 'the Framers did not define natural born citizen' and that 'we have bupkis from the Founders, Framers and Ratifiers on the meaning of natural born citizen in Article II,' "
No, I qualified with: "Beyond the three-word phrase itself and John Jay's letter with 'born' underlined". I never said the Article II text or John Jay's letter were bupkis. Please correct the false attribution.
Unknown,
ReplyDeleteSo, first you say that "the Framers did not define 'natural born citizen'" and that"[b]eyond the three-word phrase itself and John Jay's letter with 'born' underlined, we have bupkis from the Founders, Framers and Ratifiers on the meaning of 'natural born citizen' in Article II," and then you say that you do not support my attempt to "white-wash the historical issue." Clearly, if you are so stupid that after all these years you have no idea how the Founders, Framers and Ratifiers defined a natural born citizen, then you are the more stupid for saying that I am "attempting to white-wash the historical issue."
Here are just a few other terms the Framers used in the Constitution but did not define therein --
ReplyDelete* State
* Legislative Power
* Executive Power
* Judicial Power
* citizen
* naturalization
* justice
* year
* day
* person
* majority
* trial
* jury
* crime
* ambassador
* pardon
Goodness! Just about the only term that the Framers *did* define in the Constitution is "treason" -- and many people pretend to not understand even that definition when a case of clear treason presents itself.