What is amazing is that with such earth-shattering revelations, many of Obama’s supporters still say that the “birthers” are racists, bigots, and conspiracy nuts.
How difficult could it be for the Governor of a state to find a birth certificate within the official records of his own state? First, Americans obtain and produce them everyday for a sundry of reasons. Second, if the hunt for the birth certificate is like looking for and finding the holy grail of documents, how did the Hawaii Department of Health prepare Obama’s alleged Certification of Live Birth (COLB) which was allegedly prepared in paper form in 2007 and whose alleged image was posted on the internet in 2008? Why has Hawaii to this day not confirmed that the internet COLB was prepared by its health department and that the document is in fact real?
Where did the Hawaii Health Department get all the information that is allegedly stated on the COLB if the only record of Obama’s birth is “an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate?”
During the 2008 election, Hawaii's Director of Health, Chiyome Fukino, said: "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama's official birth certificate. State law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii."
Months later, in July 2009, she added: "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago." Note that Fukino said in her first statement that she saw and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Obama’s “original birth certificate.” But how do we explain now that Governor Abercrombie says that such a birth certificate might not exist.
On October 26, 2008, WND reported that “it had learned that Hawaii's Gov. Linda Lingle has placed Obama’s birth certificate under seal and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances.” The Governor’s office even declined to provide WND with a copy of the document. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=79174. So what happened to the birth certificate that former Governor Lingle placed under seal?
On May 2, 2010, in a radio interview with New York’s WABC radio, former Governor Lingle even said: "So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it's again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this." http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=150125. So again, what happened to that birth certificate that the health director personally viewed?
Why has Governor Abercrombie in his defense of Obama and in his search for Obama’s birth certificate not talked about the COLB or even attempted to get a paper copy of it? After all, if Obama had no problem with his campaign staff having it in their hands and others taking pictures of it, why can he not put that same document in the hands of his life-long friend, Governor Abercrombie?
If it is true as is suggested by Governor Abercrombie that Obama’s long-form birth certificate might not exist, why did the Hawaii Department of Health never reveal that information to the American people? Why did no one from the Hawaii Department of Health or Election Office come to the defense of Timothy Adams, the Chief Elections Clerk in Honolulu during the 2008 Presidential Election, who was viciously attacked by Obama’s supporters and the media for saying just that?
Section 338-5 of the Hawaiian statute provides: "§338-5 Compulsory registration of births. Within the time prescribed by the department of health, a certificate of every birth shall be substantially completed and filed with the local agent of the department in the district in which the birth occurred, by the administrator or designated representative of the birthing facility, or physician, or midwife, or other legally authorized person in attendance at the birth; or if not so attended, by one of the parents. The birth facility shall make available to the department appropriate medical records for the purpose of monitoring compliance with the provisions of this chapter. [L 1949, c 327, §9; RL 1955, §57-8; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-5; am L 1988, c 149, §1]."
If Obama was born in a hospital as he claims, we cannot reasonably believe that his birth certificate would have been completed and filed by one of his parents. Additionally, under Section 338-5, Hawaii has the power and authority to obtain medical records from Kapi'olani Medical Center to confirm Obama's alleged Hawaiian birth. If no long-form birth certificate exists, one would think that Hawaii would have taken additional steps to make sure that Obama was born there before making any announcements to the American public that he in fact was born there. At no time did Hawaii inform the American public that it in fact confirmed with that hospital that Obama was in fact born there which it can do under the cited statute. Hawaii has withheld this underlying evidence from the public. This withholding of evidence is a grave matter given that there exists such reasonable doubt as to whether Obama, the putative President and Commander in Chief of our military, was in fact born in Hawaii.
Why does Governor Abercrombie not use the powers given by Section 338-5 to the State of Hawaii to obtain the medical records from Kapi'olani Maternity Ward (now called Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children) in Honolulu, Hawaii, where Obama says he was born and which would conclusively prove he was born there on August 4, 1961?
If Governor Abercrombie is so sincere and such a good friend of Obama and his parents, why can he not just call Obama on the phone and ask him to help him out? He can even ask Obama to get a copy of his and his mother’s medical records from Kapi'olani Medical Center.
In short, should it be that difficult for Hawaii Governor Abercrombie to locate Obama’s long-form birth certificate in the records of the Hawaii Health Department or otherwise confirm with medical records from Hawaiian hospital, Kapi’olani Medical Center, that Obama was born in that hospital? Who are we kidding here?
Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
January 20, 2011
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
Thank you sir, your on the ball as usual..
ReplyDeleteAs the man says, "It's not over until it's over."
ReplyDeleteWould you please explain "tangible interest?"
For example, would not a criminal investigation have a tangible interest in obtaining a birth certificate if that was necessary for the investigation?
More importantly, does not a tangible interest exist to determine the eligibility of a President?
Doublee,
ReplyDeleteA "direct and tangible interest" is defined by Hawaii statute Section 338-18 the text of which you can obtain from the internet.
The Federal government or a state doing a criminal investigation does not need a "direct and tangible interest" to obtain the birth certificate or some related documents. Such a government (e.g. Congressional committee, a federal grand jury, state grand jury) can simply issue a subpoena and obtain whatever documents and/or testimony it is looking for, subject to whatever privacy rights or privilege the target may be able to assert.
Alternative theories behind Gov. Abercrombie's triggering a pretext for media to take up the 'birth certificate' issue:
ReplyDelete1. He was duped by a right wing operative (pretending to be of the left) to believe, in fact, there WAS birth documentation.
2. He was duped by a Team Hillary operative to believe there WAS birth documentation.
3. He secretly, intentionally worked with Team Hillary to create the pretext for media, knowing none exists.
4. He is just mentally unstable and bumbling and bungling and really thought there was documentation.
If we use the deductive reasoning of the great Sherlock Holmes we can quickly discern the truth of this matter.
ReplyDeleteOnce we have eliminated all other possibilities, the remaining theory, no matter how preposterous, inconceivable, or fantastic must be the truth.
The chances that the only birth certificate found to be missing (after months of it being sealed under highest security) in the state that set the standard for record keeping would belong to the first minority president (putative) of the most powerful and advanced nation on earth has to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 billion to one. (85% of all statistics are made up.) That all of his other records are also missing tends to push these odds up a little higher - perhaps a billion google to one. Still, there it is. Accidents do happen.
Thus, Mr. Obama has no birth certificate. It's not in Hawaii. It's not in Kenya. Nor can it be found anywhere else.
Therefor, our only logical conclusion is that Mr. Obama was not born. He is descended directly from Heaven.
Unfortunately, by his language and actions, we have to assume that he was thrown out. But, still, this is the only conclusion that can possibly make any sense to any true detective.
Of course, if one is an atheistic leftist or far right wing nut he might hang on to other theories such as fraud, treason, or conspiracy.
The rest of us would be wise to start using Mr. Obama's date of birth, excuse me "descent", on all of our lottery tickets.
Remember, Obama raised $750 million for his first run for office, and there is talk that he wants to raise $1 billion this time around.
ReplyDeleteIf someone ran for an office that they knew they were not eligible for, and then raised a record amount of money from the public, then there has to be some kind of misdeed in there somewhere, I would think!
Imagine someone doing this among the peanut gallery running for some small-fry office. Maybe its only a misdemeanor -- I don't really know!
posted by a political hack. Here is what happened.
ReplyDeleteObama, Pelosi and team gather in Hawaii over the holidays. They know Lingle, a Republican is out, and now they have their guy, a D in.
They convince their guy to "slip" in a phoney bc or they tell him he must come up with one from the Hawaii Dept of Health.
What none were expecting was a weary, exhausted and ticked off staff at the HDOH who said in no uncertain terms...NO!
Lingle gave cover to the crooked R's but the one thing she did is preserve the record. I'm sure others tried over the last two years to "slip" in a forged BC or to convince her staff to do otherwise. Obviously, based on the record before us, Lingle didn't budge. Preservation of the original record was utmost, while placating the crooked R's was secondary.
She leaves and Abercrombie comes in and tee's up the wiffle ball. What Abercrombie and company never counted on was a HDOH staff and leadership who had become fortified over the last two years. These bureaucrats said "not on my watch!" and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the entire Health Dept said "ditto."
Abercrombie is stuck. He's got a bureaucracy that has taken a beating over the last two years AND they ain't budging. The USA is their home too. So, what you have is a Gov whose hubris blinded him from the realities. He's blown it. And there is no way this pony can walk backwards.
Hawaii Health Director Fukino Fired. Told Americans Obama was born in Hawaii.
ReplyDeleteDescribing the state Department of Health as an agency with "organizational challenges," Gov. Neil Abercrombie yesterday named Dr. Neal Palafox as health director. Like the woman he replaces, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Palafox is a practicing physician.
Palafox, 58, is chairman of the Department of Family Practice and Community Health at the University of Hawaii John A. Burns School of Medicine. He is also the director of the school's Family Practice Residency Program.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20101219_Health_director_named.html
Wonder if "O" clown is going to disrespect SCOTUS again at the State of the Union next week ?
ReplyDeleteAPNewsBreak: Hawaii won't release Obama birth info
ReplyDeleteRead the full story here:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJD1AUmFV0f0ZjUdfkw-1m7Xm8EQ?docId=5aea898abc754aa6a82a99e17b21abe3
This just keeps getting better. Governor Abercrombie now says that he is giving up trying to get Obama's birth certificate because privacy laws prevent him from getting a copy. We'll, did we not all know that from the beginning?
I thought that since the Governor was such a good friend of Obama and his parents and that he wanted to put an end to the birth certificate saga, he was going to be able to impress upon Obama to do the right thing and give consent for the release of the document. That sure would have made both the Governor and Obama look good. But now we are full circle and back to square one.
What I do not understand is what is private about the President's birth certificate? Obama allegedly already posted in 2008 on the internet his alleged Certification of Live Birth. Those wanting the release of the long-form birth certificate are only interested in seeing what birth hospital and delivery doctor are listed on the document. Obama already told us he was born in Kapi'olani Hospital. So where is the privacy concern?
And that is not even considering that the President cannot expect to have any reasonable expectation of privacy in a document which he needs to prove that he meets the "natural born Citizen" eligibility requirement of Article II.
Just unbelievable! What ever happened to the philosopher Kings?
Strange that a valid BIRTH CERTIFICATE can't be produced, because that would mean that the COLB that has been posted on the DailyKOS, Fight the Smears, and FactCheck is exactly what I have been saying since Aug 2008, it nothing but a forgery.
ReplyDeleteRemember the COLB is supposed to be backed up by an official generated long form BIRTH CERTIFICATE issued by an official or agency responsible for filing the birth with the Department of Health. So what is the COLB presented by Obama based upon? Nothing, absolutely nothing but hot air, fictitious, and made up propaganda, and again is nothing but a forgery. Nothing from nothing.
The COLB that was used to present Obama as a ‘valid candidate’ is a fraudulant document, and that there is no document [long form Birth Certificate] backing it up as the Obama supporters continuely like to state as ‘prima facie’ evidence of a birth anywhere in the United States let alone Hawaii, is a criminal act.
But then the birth certificate is a smoke screen as Obama fails to meet the Constuitutional requirement of a 'Natural Born Citizen'.
When it becomes open or common knowledge that there is no long form Birth Certificate, and that Obama is nothing but a fraud, the real questions on eligibility might be addressed, and those responsible held accountable. Including those that defended the illegal undocumented foreigner. The motto of the Obama campaign should have been "caveat emptor" or in simple english "Let the buyer beware."
Has anyone filed a lawsuit yet specifically against Hawaii election officials for failing to do their job regarding Obama's eligibility? What about something against Fukino?
ReplyDeleteAre there any followers on this blog who live in Hawaii who could simply follow these people around, hang out at press conferences, across the street from the Health Department, and the governor's residence and what not holding up "where's the birth certificate" signs?
I am grateful to the Daily Pen blog, which I have been reading for the past several days.
Thank you, Thank you.
ReplyDeleteYour most recent post regarding Jedi Pauly over at Citizen Wells was much needed and much appreciated.
As you can see, we are much aggrieved and mightily oppressed over there. Anything you can continue to do will help provide sanity.
I am an engineer, not a lawyer, so I express things differently and do not have have a grasp of the legal arcana necessary in your world. But I have a well-honed "this is just wrong" detector. I posted a "retort" to your post you might like to read.
GOD BLESS
http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2011/01/january-11-2011-white-hat-report-8-end.html#comments
ReplyDeleteClaims Supreme Court has looked at the Obama issue and declared that Obama is not a NBC. They have not announced judgement for reasons stated.
Can someone confirm this story?
It is the most incredible story of this entire saga.
Fukino's amended comment is revealing as it by-passes the term "birth certificate' and replaces it with 'original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American."
ReplyDeleteNOTE, how she assumes that Hawaiian birth alone makes Obama a 'natural born citizen.'
The Certification of Live Birth was generated from birth data in the vital records. When Hawaii, and many other states, transcribed their vital records into computer databases, Obama's information was included . . . minus the existence of a long form, or information such as the licensed birthing facility and witnessing doctor.
That is how a C.O.L.B. is generated, and why a court would deny it alone as proof of Hawaiian, or native birth.
No one has standing in the biggest fraud in this county's history.
ReplyDeleteOur elected people are really on top of things and the media what can we say about them?
Sworn Affidavit by Tim Adams, Senior Election Clerk in Hawaii during the 2008 Presidential Election, Stating No Hawaii Hospital Generated Long Form Birth Certificate Exists for Obama and that all the government officials in Hawaii knew this in 2008 and that he was told to stop asking questions about it by his supervisors:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.scribd.com/doc/47512486/Sworn-Affidavit-by-Tim-Adams-Stating-No-HI-Hospital-Filed-Long-Form-Birth-Cert-Exists-for-Obama
CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
www.protectourliberty.org