Some of Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama Soetoro'sPassport Application Records Are Released due to Strunk FOIA Filing
Passport file analysis, comments, and more new questions
Posted By: CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
Posted: 31 Jul 2010 - Last Update: 01 Aug 2010 11 p.m.
Posted By: CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
Posted: 31 Jul 2010 - Last Update: 01 Aug 2010 11 p.m.
Some Stanley Ann Dunham passport file documents are finally released after over a year and a half of Mr. Christopher Earl Strunk requesting and then suing to get the information released in the Strunk vs Dept of State FOIA case. This information should have been been released long ago per his initial FOIA request filed back in Oct 2008. But as with everything with Mr. Obama and his early life, the cover up is maintained as long as possible and then when the files are released things that should be there are missing. It required a federal lawsuit to even get them to release even these documents.
The passport services official says in the cover letter that the some earlier passport application records noted in subsequent filings could not be found. Any possible 1960/1961 passport application paper work information that has been postulated by researchers studying Obama's early life narrative is missing from this released information. The link to any earlier passport application filed in the early 60s would have been shown in the passport application filed in 1965. But conveniently, the 1965 passport application paper work for a known passport issued on July 19, 1965 is missing. How convenient that key pieces of information about Obama and his family's early life always turns up missing! This reminds me of the missing page in the Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama 1964 divorce file.
Why I believe the July 19, 1965 issued passport was issued pursuant to a passport renewal application filed in 1965 for a prior passport that was expiring and that it was not the first passport that Stanley Ann Dunham had. The issue date in July 19, 1965 is four months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965. If she had applied for her first passport in the late spring or early summer of 1965 she would have had to legally apply for it in her married name, Stanley Ann Soetoro. The July 19, 1965 issued passport was not in her married name since she had to AMEND it in 1967 and show her marriage license to get her married name put on her passport at that time. That is what the 1967 document states. And secondly, I believe it was a passport renewal application in 1965, because Obama's family in Kenya says Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama was there when Obama was born and government officials in Kenya state Obama was born there. Stanley Ann would have needed a passport in 1961 to get to Kenya and back to the USA. Since the 1965 passport was not in her 2nd marriage name when it was issued 4 months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro, it is obvious to me she simply renewed her previously issued circa early 1961 original passport which was in either her maiden name or in the name of her first marriage name of Stanley Ann Obama, if issued after Feb 1961 when she is said to have married Barack Hussein Obama Sr.
The copies of documents in what was released per the FOIA request are numbered but not in chronological order. This makes reading the file and the flow of events over time more difficult unless one prints out the file and rearranges the docs in chronological order, which I did.
There is a document numbered P3 which is an application for amendment of her existing passport. This amendment request was apparently done in 1967 (per a handwritten clerk's name and date note on it since the date is not filled in below Stanley Ann's signature on the form). This handwritten annotated note and date was apparently done by a clerk seeing a marriage license in order to process the request to amend a passport issued on July 19, 1965. But the copy of that 1965 passport application is not provided in this FOIA request. The passport officials say it could not be found. Why? That 1965 passport was issued several months after she married Lolo Soetoro. She filed the amendment apparently in 1967 allegedly to have it reflect her married name due to her name change after marrying Lolo Soetoro at Molokai Hawaii on March 15, 1965 per page marked P3 of the released documents. Thus the conveniently missing application records for this 1965 passport implies to me that that there was something indicated in it that the powers to be did not want the public to see, i.e., that she had a passport prior to 1965 and the 1965 records indicated it was a Renewal application. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear. The carefully worded cover letter with the FOIA release implies to me that earlier years records have been purged by someone at sometime for some reason since they could not find a record that should be there based on records they did find. Was the 1965 passport issued done per a renewal request for a prior issued passport? As to the implication in the cover letter that early year data may have been cleaned out due to some records retention cut off date. I don't buy that. Since passport records are filed in files by name and not in boxes or files by year, this does not make sense. I was under the impression that passport records kept and filed by name were kept virtually forever. That wording sounded to me like bureaucratic obfuscation. It sounds to me like HI officials (or whoever controls them) are now instructing the U.S. Passport Office how to obfuscate and parse sentences in cover letters to allow them to not provide what one asks for and yet not be lying. In my opinion, there was probably a passport issued to Stanley Ann (whatever name she used to get it) prior to 1965. The 1965 passport application record pointed to that. So someone made the 1965 application records disappear.
Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro-Passport Application File-Strunk v Dept of State-FOIA Release-FINAL-7-29-10. This file indicates via the 1967 passport amendment application (document marked P3) that Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama had a passport for certain issued to her 1965 and she was applying to amend it. Thus she had one for sure in 1965. Since her originally issued passport was good for up to 5 years, that means if the 1965 issued passport was a reissue of a passport to replace the original one that she had, but which was expiring, then she likely got her first passport possibly as early as late 1960 or early 1961.
How does all this fit the narrative to explain the information coming out of Africa and Kenya that Obama was born there? Why would she need a passport at age 18? She would not need it to have a baby in Hawaii or to go to college in Seattle Washington and back and forth to home in Hawaii. What was the real reason this pregnant 18 year old teenager got a passport in late 1960 or early in 1961? I believe it was likely to be able to travel to Kenya to have the baby over there where it was her intent to leave the baby there to be raised by the paternal family in Kenya. She was to then return to re-start her life as a young teenager going to college in Seattle Washington. And then when Stanley Ann did not follow the plan because maternal instincts kicked in and she returned to college in Seattle WITH the new baby, grandma Dunham had to take action and filed the fraudulent action in Hawaii to falsely register the baby as born at home there in Hawaii, with no witnesses, to get her newborn grandson U.S. Citizenship ... because it was very easy to do this in Hawaii in 1961. Listen to the Bill Cunningham Radio Show for how it was likely done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ
Also in this passport applications file is revealed the exact date of Stanley Ann's marriage (two different exact dates and locations?) to Lolo Soetoro. But as is typical for everything with this family, nothing is consistent. In the 1967 amendment filing marked P3 she says she married Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965 in Molokai Hawaii. But in a later passport renewal application marked P5 filed in 1981 she states she married him on March 5, 1964 in Maui, Hawaii. Which is true? Either way, said marriage dates could have allowed for Obama to have been legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii at age 5 or under, given either of these marriage dates. And in addition, his falsified birth records in Hawaii, fraudulently created by grandma Dunham in 1961, could have been amended to show the new legal name of Barry Soetoro. Obama was mentioned as a son over age 18 in the Soetoro 1980 Divorce file as a dependent of Lolo Soetoro and still receiving financial aid from Lolo Soetoro to attend college. And then later in life as an adult Obama could have amended his vital record in Hawaii again and changed his name back to Barack Hussein Obama II when at that time in his life that name suited him. Obama is a life narrative chameleon. He changes names and citizenship at will during his life to suit his current needs and plans.
Also on document P1 signed in 1968, the second page of that document, she wrote in the block named "Amend to Include (Exclude) Children" the name of her son Barack Hussein Obama and then right below it a weird name or phrase spelled and in parenthesis as (Soebarkah). This entry then has 5 diagonal line strike-through lines across the entry. Another mysterious new tidbit and question as to the meaning of that entry to research.
When the original and complete birth records file for Obama in Hawaii going back to and including Aug 1961, and all subsequent amendments are released, it will likely be very damning to Obama's self created nativity narrative and other stories of his early life. Children legally adopted at age 5 and under have their new citizenship governed by the international Hague Convention Treaty on adopting children. The United States is a signatory to that treaty. That is another likely reason why Obama alludes to his being age 6 when those Indonesian records are discussed in regards to when his step-father "adopted" him and saying that the adoption occurred in Indonesia. I think that story is more false direction and misinformation type data put out by Obama and his handlers to throw one off the true trail.
See the records that have been released per the Strunk FOIA request and court order at: http://www.scribd.com/doc/35161730/Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Obama-Soetoro-Passport-Application-File-Strunk-v-Dept-of-State-FOIA-Release-FINAL-7-29-10
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P.S. Also released via another FOIA request were the U.S. records of her second husband Lolo Seotoro (parts of this file have been redacted/blacked out). This file contains a very poor quality copy of the March 1965 marriage license of Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama to Lolo Soetoro, her 2nd husband, and Obama's step-father in Indonesia. http://www.scribd.com/doc/35189898/Lolo-Soetoro-U-S-Records-Allen-v-DHS-State-and-Allen-v-USCIS-FOIA-Releases-Final-7-29-10
P.P.S. Close reading of the marriage license of Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama to Lolo Soetoro in March 1965 reveals that they were married in the state of Hawaii in Molokai in the county of Maui on the 15th of March, 1965. http://www.scribd.com/doc/35197608/Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Obama-Lolo-Soetoro-Marriage-License-Mar-1965-From-Soetoro-FOIA-Released-Docs
P.P.P.S. See this link sent to me about passport records retention:
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/96122.pdf
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02 Aug 2010: An interesting observation to note about that new name for Barack Hussein Obama found written on the 2nd page of document numbered P1 is that the first three letters of that name Soebarkah, i.e., 'Soe' are also the first three letters of Lolo Soetoro's last name, i.e., 'Soe'. Lolo Soetore allegedly legally adopted Barack and changed Barack's name to Barry Soetoro after Lolo married Obama's mother Stanley Ann (Dunham) Obama on 15 March 1965 in Hawaii. Where and exactly when did the legal adoption and name change occur, in Hawaii under U.S. law or in Indonesian under their laws, no one knows for certain at this point? More questions to answer about the mystery man in the Oval Office.
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41 comments:
I believe there is a court order by a CA judge to have released the Dunham's records. The DHS has refused to release the records even under a Court order.
One question is: Was Dunham really in Hawaii in 1961?
It's very convenient that the 1960-1964 records are somehow missing and there is not an answer to where Dunham was in 1960-1961.
As an additional comment on my previous comment:
The Ca case is Allen v Soetoro now on appeal in 9th Circuit.
The government appears unwilling to release the ordered records.
It's really no wonder that the government doesn't want to release ANYTHING about anyone in the family since what HAS been releases certainly establishes that the entire bunch are nothing but a bunch of serial liars and perjurers.
Barry's mama lies in her passport paperwork (the parts that ARE available). She states in her '65passpoet application that she married Soetoro March 15, 1965 on Moloki and in her '81 application she says they were married March 5, 1964. Whoa, Nellie!!
Nothing like a few "little fibs" to liven up your life story, right??? Guess Narry learned that from his family alongs with Communism/Muslim teachings?
And that's just from casual inspection. Good find.
Moreover - why would mama even NEED a passport prior to 1965 whern she married Soetoro and moved to Indonesia??? After all - presumably according to all the Obama-protectors - she stayed in HI through 61 and later until 65 when she left for Indonsesia. The fact that there WAS an earlier passport would mean she went somewhere out of the US pre 65. Now WHERE might that have been???
The fact that the passport has evaporated is even more odd ... and suspicious. They are ALL a bunch of scofflaws and frauds more than happy to break the law at the drop of a hat because they all hated the US.
And note that on returning to the US from Indonesia she had to file for an "exception". Was this because she then had Indonesian citizenship or dual citizenship???
Barry would have been less than 6 years old based upon the passport statements when taken to Indonesia in that mom and new-poppa were "married" (if any) when he was taken to Jakarta - even with the latest marriage date of the two.
That would I believe make him Indonesian and a Muslim as well. Would Barry/his mom/his grandparents/etc. lie??? Yep - sure would.
Someone whose name begins with a D needs to request their passport records from 1960-61 asap.
Perhaps the officials who signed these are still around.
Why is the first app signed on Aug. 13th 1968?
I think this is all Allen will get. If he wants to get the rest, he may have to allege that the State Dept. is lying about not having the first record. It just doesn't make sense.
It shouldn't take a year and 9 months to get records that are allowed to be given under the law.
While it is easy to get caught up in all of the intrigue prevalent via revelations such as this it is critical for everyone to acknowledge that the burden of proof remains upon Mr. Obama.
Mr. Obama's lack of documentation only bolsters the claim that he is not a natural born citizen and has not qualified for the office of the president.
The text of the Constitution excludes Obama from eligibility. We know he was born British no matter where in the universe he was born, because his father was a British Kenyan.
The Constitution created the presidency, and tests the president's exclusive loyalty to it twice: in the oath of office requirement and in the natural born citizen requirement. Both require exclusive allegiance to the government of the Constitution, NOT just simply to the country.
Perhaps natural born Citizens of the United States must be born in the United States, but not all people born in the United States are natural born Citizens of the Untied States.
Perhaps natural born Citizens of the United States must be citizens of the United States from the moment of birth, but not all people who are citizens of the United States from the moment of birth are natural born Citizens of the United States.
Americans have been fooled into believing that a natural born Citizen is one who is born exclusively in the United States or who is a US citizen from birth. But there are many people born in the US whom the Constitution found a reason to excuse from the NBC requirement, namely those who were citizens of the US at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. Why would the Constitution find a reason to excuse them from having to be NBC if they were already NBC? The reason is that they were not born in the exclusive jurisdiction of the government established by the Constitution. That is, they were born in the US under the government of the Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union.
There were no natural born Citizens of the United States for the purposes of eligibility to the presidency, as described by the Constitution, until after the adoption of the Constitution because said natural born Citizen must not share birth-related allegiance, jurisdiction, loyalty, or animosity to any other GOVERNMENT.
NBC is government-focused, not country-focused. The text of the Constitution itself, in solo, supports this theory and excludes Obama, without reliance on the opinion of others.
A tipster just sent me this. They said that in this linked to government regulation that passport files and records must be retained for 100 years. Here is the link so we all can read it together. If so, then that FOIA letter misstated the law on records retention for passport files. Possibly someone sanitized Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro's passport file via a "break in" like was done to Obama's file that subsequently resulted in someone involved with that passport-gate caper being shot and that crime never solved. Maybe that contract worker got to Stanly Ann's file and did the dirty deed of sanitizing it of early damaging records before he attempted to crack into Obama's file.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/96122.pdf
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
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I love you guys as I love Orly Taitz (and Leo Donofrio when he was in the game) for putting it all on the line for your country. You're doing a great service to this nation and to its citizens for the work you're currently engaged in.
But I feel you're all chasing ghosts. You keep trying to put together the pieces of a puzzle that never existed. This guy's past is a narrative that's been written by many people; this is why you keep coming upon these discrepancies like you're finding now.
Before you can speculate on the ins and outs of Obama's history, you need to answer the most fundamental question: Is Stanley Dunham actually Obama's mother? Everything about this specter's past is a carefully manufactured lie, why not his mother as well?
You said: Obama is a life narrative chameleon. He changes names and citizenship at will during his life to suit his current needs and plans.
This isn't an answer so much as a question. That question is: Is it Obama that keeps changing narratives or is it someone changing it for him, and if so, who? That is the real question.
P1, dated 1968, says Dunham Obama Soetoro was "Now Residing At: Djakarta, Indonesia."
P2, dated 1972, says Dunham Obama Soetoro's PROPOSED LENGTH OF STAY in Indonesia was INDEFINITE.
On the back side of P5 (script p. 11 of 14), it says:
"I INTEND TO CONTINUE TO RESIDE ABROAD FOR THE FOLLOWING PERIOD AND PURPOSE
Two years contract with Ford Foundation from January 1981 - December 1982."
Barry Soetoro traveled to Pakistan (and probably Indonesia) in 1982.
Dunham Obama Soetoro filed the Soetoro divorce complaint IN HAWAII on August 20, 1980. The divorce was GRANTED on August 28, 1980.
The divorce complaint does not mention the date or location of the alleged marriage.
P6 says Dunham Obama Soetoro was still in Indonesia in 1986, four years after the Ford Foundation jig was up. So far, we have Dunham Obama Soetoro, an alleged U.S. citizen, living in Indonesia from, at least, 1968 to, at least, 1986.
On P1, dated 1968, and on P2, dated 1972, Dunham Obama Soetoro says to contact Stanley Armour Dunham, not Lolo Soetoro, in case of emergency. In fact, Lolo was a no-show.
One document (waiver) is signed by Leonard Soon, Immigration Officer. I located him in public data bases.
Alfred Harding IV, Foreign Service Officer, signed P4 of the document, died in 2006.
While there are divorce records for Dunham Obama Soetoro, no one has a located publicly available marriage license(s).
"The established retention period for electronic records in PRISM is presently 100 years..."
The 100 years applies to electronic records retention. The passport records could have been paper records at the time they were allegedly destroyed.
The National Archives states on its website: "Passport applications can be an excellent source of genealogical information, especially about foreign-born individuals. The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) has passport applications from Oct. 1795-Mar. 1925; the U.S. Department of State has passport applications from Apr. 1925 to the present."
If Ann's passport records were destroyed, then how do you explain the National Archives stating, "the U.S. Department of State has passport applications from Apr. 1925 to the present."
One more thing:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/services/copies/copies_872.html states:
"Passport Records for Issuances 1925 – Present
Requesting Your Own Record
Passport Services maintains United States passport records for passports issued from 1925 to the present."
It doesn't sound like such records have ever been destroyed.
Heck for that matter,
where is her marriage certificate with Barack sr. ?
Why would that be secret? Why would that be withheld when both have passed?
The Washington Post article (link above) says Harding served in Indonesia during the period Dunham Obama Soetoro traveled there:
Mr. Harding also served in Hong Kong and Indonesia in the 1960s and 1970s. From 1972 to 1975, he was based in Washington and helped establish cultural links between China and the United States. He was the State Department's Freedom of Information officer from 1977 until his retirement in 1979.
Harding signed P4 in 1976, a period that is unaccounted for in this obit.
When on earth are you going to be allowed by the Judicial System to get the proofs needed to prove that Obama is nothing less than a fraudulent president of the USA who was simply not eligible under the Constitution of the USA?
When?
This "no standing" story is a little bit too easy to throw at those who put cases in court. When this travesty of justice is going to last once and for all?
Wasn't Stanley Ann D. in Beirut, Lebanon circa 1953-54; attending the Collège Notre-Dame de Jamhour?
I think I discovered why archived originals can't be located. From NARA; Does NARA lend original documents for research?
NARA does not lend original documents for research use.
Originating Federal agencies or successors in function; courts; and the President, Vice President, former Presidents or Vice Presidents or donors, or their designated representative may request loans of their own original holdings for the conduct of official business.
www.archives.gov/faqs/
There will be a record showing who applied to remove those originals though. I suspect the collection of documents with evidence of who Obama/ Soetoro really is have been removed under the guise of permanent relocation in a presidential museum where they can be hidden permanently from public view by the curator.
The reason for the "amended to include/ exclude children" entry was because the child was on the prior passport. Also in 1978 Carter signed Pub.L. 95-432 www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html which supposedly prospectively removed retention requirements of certain parents whose children were born abroad and in Obamas' case it might apply. I was however under the impression that congress shall make no law ex post facto, which this public law appears to be.
All taken together this man is a problem of the highest order since he has somehow come to be where he is by miraculously entering every crack and crevice in law. Is it luck or was this path researched and planned simply to obfuscate his true origin and purpose?
Two issues: 1 this FOIA release comes just a week before Ken Allen’s next FOIA court action Aug 5th. Coincidence? 2.The passport data was likely scanned and saved in electronic format sometime in the past 10 years. If so it had to be purged from the database and from the backup copies. DBAs loathe purging data of selected records, and such purging leaves a trail that another DBA could find. Typically purging from the backup tapes never happens as it is too much trouble to find and load the tape backup (kept off site), purge and create new tapes sans a selected record. I would expect the entire tape to be missing for that section of data. Something to consider.
I was able to get the record of, a child born abroad in 1971, in 2005.
I guess Barry is not the only one with a document problem, it appears to run in the family.
What are the chances of the government loosing 2 marriage certificates and 1 divorce record of one woman.
Marriage and divorce records are required in life for certain things along the way.
Sorry, Barack, but I don't think your mom ever married your father. I realize that must be embarrassing as a President but it also makes you the product of our new unwed society.
We are currently at great risk of losing our constitutional republic through blatant disregard for the rule of law. If so, we won't be the first.
We must learn and teach the lessons of history.
Please review the following link and pass on as you wish.
http://www.flixxy.com/political-systems.htm
Note that Stanley Ann never includes Obama in her name in these passport filings, not even in the other names known by. In her correspondence with the Immigration official John F. O'Shea, pleading hardship to keep Lolo in the United States based on her mental anguish, Barry is referred to only as her son by a previous marriage; she never offers Obama as the name of her former husband.
In the document P1 on the second page, Barack Hussein Obama is written under Include (Exclude) Children and then crossed out. Note the hand in which his name is written and compare it to the hand on page 1. The latter is Stanley Ann's hand, nearly child like printing in form and the bottom edges of the Cap letters in the open box are not aligned. Indefinite is misspelled as "indefinate" (a spelling which is overwritten in a later document). The former hand (the "son's name") is very precise and even. It is written in all Caps, first letter larger, where her name entries were Caps first letter, other letters small. The "sons name" appears to have been written by someone else. The question is who and when. Might want to compare the printing to a current sample of Mr. Obama's.
Being denied the 1965 passport application, we cannot confirm that Stanley Ann's son by a previous marriage was called Barack Hussein Obama in 1965. This name was not used on his Indonesian school record.
P.S. I will use this post to confirm that I can still post here. I will send this information to Allen.
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Hi all,
Re. by CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/07/some-of-stanley-ann-dunham-obama.html
and ...
Re. by Dr. Corsi
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=186677
I noticed in the WND.com article by Dr. Corsi he has spelled the new name found for Barack Hussein Obama (BHO) as 'Saebarkah'. In my blog post I pointed out that it looked like 'Soebarkah' to me. I just looked at it again under a magnifying glass and it is clearly spelled to me as 'Soebarkah' with an 'o' and is definitely not an 'a' after the S.
If researchers are going to look for this new BHO name in Indonesian and other records, they will have to spell it right or at least both ways if there is some dispute as to the way it should be spelled in Indonesia. But on the second page of document numbered P1, the name with the strike out lines through it, that name looks clearly spelled to me as 'Soebarkah'.
An interesting observation to note is that the first three letters 'Soe' are also the first three letters of Lolo Soetoro's last name, i.e., 'Soe'.
Please check the file yourself and if you all agree it's an 'o' and not an 'a', please correct people on the net as to the correct spelling as observed in that passport records document.
We all know that the Soetoro name has been spelled many ways in Stanley Ann's and Barry's (aka Steve's) life. So beware of that too. She may have spelled Soebarkah different ways in other places.
Here is where the file can be found so you can view the name yourself. Print it out for easier study.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35161730/Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Obama-Soetoro-Passport-Application-File-Strunk-v-Dept-of-State-FOIA-Release-FINAL-7-29-10
Feel free to cut and paste this and pass it along to other sites.
CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.protectourliberty.org
http://puzo1.blogspot.com
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Editor's note: This was posted by Bob Strauss in another thread. I am cross posting it here into the Dunham passport FOIA release thread FYI.
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Pete // August 2, 2010 at 7:53 am
>>>Georgetown posted:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35189898/Lolo-Soetoro-U-S-Records-Allen-v-DHS-State-and-Allen-v-USCIS-FOIA-Releases-Final-7-29-10<<<
Georgetown,
Everything about the 'child' that doesn't say he was a US citizen by birth has been redacted. Some of the documents are illegible. The portions concerning Barry Obama that have been redacted, I'm sure were very important. That means they took the time to hide evidence.
Pete
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Another thing that seems odd is the place of marriage of Stanley & Lolo (if any) ... you almost always have to assume the "if any" modifier with anything Obama & relativess or hangers-on due to their untruthfulness on almost everything as dictated by their current needs.
The island of Molokai is in the county of Maui and, in fact is the island where Father Damien ministered to the lepers at the colony there on the north shore. This colony was segregated by law with access highly restricted until 1969. It seems exceedingly strange that Stanley & Lolo would choose to be married on this island since aside from the isolated leper colony there are very few towns of any size.
My belief?? I think that this "marriage" is as likely as the "marriage" (on Maui - presumably the island rather than the county) of Stanley & Barack Sr ... meaning that there was none unless documentart proof can be found. It would certainly fit the "who needs to follow laws" lifes of these folks.
The name "Soebarkah" in parentheses seems like an after-thought by the mother. It doesn't fit in the box. She probably included it because it's a renewal application and she wanted the person processing the application to know it's the same child she listed on her earlier application from 1965. In other words, in the earlier application which is conveniently missing, he is probably listed with the Soebarkah surname. If that's the case, that would suggest the possibility that his real birth certificate might be listed under Soebarkah in whatever country he was truly born in.
Does anyone have any thoughts on the memorandum with the name Mix on it that states Obama was born in the U.S.?
It is weird. It's written on a defunct typewriter. Apparently neither the numeral 'l' nor the letter '1' keys work correctly, and the one is out altogether, and so he is substituting a partially working and vertically misaligned 'L' for both. Why would someone who had to write correspondence and notes for an office like this be forced to use a typewriter that incredibly bad. It seems like he would have just written a handwritten note in that event and signed it.
And then there's no signature, either.
Hi Steve,
World Net Daily did a story tonight on that note found in the Lolo Soetoro FOIA released file. Here is the link to that article.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=188769
As to my opinion, this note says an inquiry was made. Likely just a quick phone call to the mother by someone in another office. Mom of course would have gave them the statement based on the family's story line for where Obama was born based on Grandma Dunham's falsifying the birth registration of Obama back in 1961 as his birth occurring in Hawaii when it physically occurred elsewhere. After all we do know a vital record saying Obama's birth was registered in Hawaii does exist. It's just that who file that record and what it said is unknown. And no independent witnesses or any other corroborating evidence not generated by that false registration (which has become a breeder record for other items such as the newspaper insertions) exists. And then based on the phone inquiry someone then fed that family statement and account of Obama's nativity story and vital record in Hawaii back to this person who then made the note in the file that an inquiry was made and that Obama is a U.S. Citizen and was born in Hawaii. There certainly is no formal documentation in the file as to the extent of any inquiry or who did it and paper records developed from the inquiry. It's all the garbage in leads to garbage out scenario. A falsified birth registration of Obama being born in Hawaii and getting into the Hawaiian birth registration system is the breeder document for all the subsequent events and statements coming out of Hawaii by the family, the newspapers, and carefully parsed statements by HI officials. They now know something is fishy and are continuing the cover up in spite of that but are carefully parsing every word now. That's my take on that note in the Soetoro file.
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
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Mr. Strunk "counter attacks" regarding the FOIA release with missing paper work for Stanley Ann Dunham's passport records prior to 1968. It seems Mr. Strunk cleverly had some one else file, or knew of someone else who had filed, for information via a FOIA request for the time period of 1953 to 1985 for another person and in that FOIA release not a single piece of paper or expected record was missing for that time period, which overlaps the Stanley Ann Dunham FOIA request time period. This conclusively proves to anyone with common sense that the passport records and papers prior to 1968 where not routinely ordered destroyed as the passport services office alleged in their cover letter to Mr. Strunk. It is now obvious that someone has sanitized Stanley Ann Dunham's passport records file and removed all pre-1968 paper work covering the mentioned and known 1965 passport application and likely prior passport applications ... either before the 2008 election, during the 2008 election, or now to cover up for Obama. Possibly the missing paper work has something to do with the passport system records break-in during the primary campaign in the spring of 2008 which ended up in the key witness being found shot dead a few weeks later. And that crime was never properly investigated or solved.
Our entire system of government is being corrupted to protect one man ... a man whose life is a life of lies and a fraud. The man in the Oval Office is a con-man and a criminal. This usurpation of the office of the Presidency and command of our military cannot be allowed to stand. Mr. Strunk is doing his part. Mr. Strunk, a true patriot, is standing tall and fighting back.
Bravo Zulu Mr. Strunk!
Read more about Mr. Strunk's latest filing at this link:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/strunk-v-dos-high-crimes-and.html
CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
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Hello, I really have to point something out here that is absolutly frustrating me. The Aurtor of this article keeps bring up or returning to the fact, point, or issue of weather or not Obama's mother, Stanley Ann what ever last name she was using had a passport prior to 1965 and if the 1965 application was a first time application or a renewal. Come on people The main issue or real focus here is not weather it was her first passport or a renewal or not or when her first passport was issued? The most important thing to find out is "WEATHER OR NOT SHE USED IT, & WHEN THAT WAS"?
FOLKS REMEMBER WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHEN SHE APPLIED FOR IT. I DON'T CARE IF SHE APPLIED FOR IT IN 1950 ALL THAT MATTERS IS IF SHE HAD A VALID PASSPORT IN 1961 AND WEATHER OR NOT "SHE USED IT". THE KEY QUESTION IS WHEN DID SHE USE NOT APPLY FOR IT.
There is one problems. These seem like errors on exact procedure. President Obama was born of a U.S. citizen. Regardless of where you are born in a foreign country you are still a citizen if your parent is a u.s. citizen. All you would have to do, and this is where the error occurred, is file a report with the local embassy.
John Wong,
First, under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, for those born after the adoption of the Constitution, the standard to be eligible to the office of President is "natural born Citizen," not "citizen" or "U.S. citizen."
Second, your comment, referring to an error having been committed by someone failing to file a report of the birth with a local embassy, assumes that the person was born out of the territory and jurisdiction of the United States. In such case, the most that that person can be under modern Congressional statutes is a naturalized "citizen of the United States" at birth, and only by the force of a naturalization Act of Congress, not a "natural born Citizen" under the common law.
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