Sunday, April 11, 2010

Current Minister of Kenyan Government Declares Obama "was born here in Kenya" and Is Not a “native American”

A debate on the adoption of a new Kenyan Constitution took place in the House of the National Assembly of Kenya on Thursday, March 25, 2010. The Official Report of that House, dated Thursday, March 25, 2010, and recorded in the Kenyan government's depository, Hansard-the official source of printed transcripts of parliamentary debates-provides the details of that debate. One of the speakers (see pages 29-31) during that debate was The Minister for Lands, Mr. James Orengo. Ironically, he expressed to the Parliament in open debate that "[i]f we do not live by the values and principles contained in this Constitution, all that is contained in this Constitution will be of no significance...." He continued saying that Kenyans must follow the rule of law and especially the Constitution, stating that the "unmaking of Kenya began by disregard and non-compliance of the law. We ended up in a dictatorship that we had to fight for so many years...." He further explained that under the new proposed Constitution, the "Executive authority of the President . . . is derived from the people...."

He then continued to tell the Parliament that Kenya must overcome its problem of elements of its population excluding people from participating in Kenyan life because of their ethnicity or tribal affiliations. He asked that all Kenyans unite, regardless of ethnic or tribal affiliations, stating: "The other thing that we are addressing through devolution is exclusion. What has made us suffer as a nation is exclusion. Once people feel excluded, even when you want to employ a policeman or constable or you want to build a dispensary, it must come from the centre. In the colonial days, these things were being done on the ground and they could give bursaries and build roads. I commend devolution. Those who fear devolution are living in the past. They are being guided by their ethnic consideration and objectives. They are living in the past. If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion. What has killed us here is exclusion; that once Mr. Orengo is President, I know of no other place than Ugenya. That is why we were fighting against these many Presidencies in the past. I hope that Kenya will come of age. This country must come of age. People want freedom and nations want liberation, but countries want independence."

There we have it clearly stated by a current Minister of the Kenyan Cabinet that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a "native American." It is unbelievable that a high-ranking member of the Kenyan government would make such a matter-of-fact statement, given the debate that is raging in the United States about whether Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya. From his statement, it appears that Mr. Orengo believes that the American electorate knew that Obama was born in Kenya and still voted for him to be President. It is also significant that no one in the Kenyan Parliament corrected or challenged Mr. Orengo when he made his statement, given that Obama's place of birth debate must be well-known in Kenya and is important to Obama's legitimacy to be the President of the United States. Kenya would not only be embarrassed but would also be negatively impacted upon if Obama were found not to be the legitimate President of the United States. One would also think that Mr. Orengo would share his knowledge with the American people. I surely hope that the American media will immediately fly to Kenya and personally speak to Mr. Orengo to find out why he believes that Obama was born in Kenya. The full House report was originally found at http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/downloads/tenth_forth_sess/Hansard/RDRAFT25.03P.pdf. [Direct viewing scrubbed/disabled on Kenyan server as of 15 Apr 2010. A copy of the Kenyan National Assembly PDF file which was saved and uploaded to SCRIBD.com can still be downloaded from there.] The speech of Mr. Orengo starts at page 29 and ends at page 31. The above quote is found on page 31.

For a catalog of evidence concerning whether Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya, see my essay entitled, Is the State of Hawaii Covering Up Birth Registration Fraud in the Case of Obama? Hawaii Law Makers Contemplating Stopping Concerned Americans from Investigating Whether Obama Was Born There - Plus a Catalog of Evidence for and Against Obama's Physically Being Born in Hawaii and Not Just Falsely Registered There After the Fact, at: http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/03/hawaii-law-makers-contemplating.html

Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
April 11, 2010
Updated April 14, 2010
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
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19 April 2010 Update: Another Kenyan minister, Dr. Bonny Khalwale, stated on the record on 14 April 2010 in the Kenyan National Assembly that Obama should repatriate himself to Kenya. See full story here:
http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/04/kenyan-minister-khalwale-asks-when.html
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Cross Link: Newspaper Birth Announcement Ads in 1961 in two Hawaiian Newspapers do NOT prove Obama was physically born in Hawaii. The two announcements in the Hawaiian newspaper in 1961 only prove a birth was REGISTERED there, not that he was born there. See this link for details:
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/04/newspaper-birth-announcement-ads-in.html
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70 comments:

James said...

He will probably end up changing his statement like the Kenyan Ambassador and Sarah Obama did. But it matters not, he has been "caught" and Obama was born in Kenya.

A pen said...

How decent of them to claim our constitution is an affront to their independence by requiring allegiance to the same. They might as well be stating that if Obama is found illegally sitting that we are the cause of their struggles with despots and ignorance.

Incredulous said...

is
a
criminal
they ALL knew, I got that a long time ago they were no longer going to defend his eligibility they were IN OUR FACES that they got away with it all.
The usurper is null and void. Which law says we Americans have to abide a criminal illegal alien Kenyan?
None.

The Stacker said...

Is this a game changer? Does it help the cases that much more?

cfkerchner said...

Did you all read in the news that yesterday the putative President slipped away from his press pool for a mysterious two hours. Allegedly he was off to watch his daughter play soccer. I wonder if this is a cover story and Obama was off having a top meeting with some powers to be in Congress and the Supreme Court about this news that surfaced today from Kenya. And of course Obama would not want the press to know who he was meeting with all of a sudden. Maybe Obama has received the news that he is going to have to resign. Wouldn't that be great news and a great day for America after living through the last two years of lies and deceit from Obama and this Congress.

CDR Kerchner
www.protectourliberty.org

A pen said...

I would not speculate that Obama and his entourage are going to accept their downfall so easily. Beyond the exposing of ineligibility lies the who, what, when and why answers which will certainly result in severe penalties for a very large group of conspirators. These people will not accept that fate without a struggle. Once they admit complicity their entire movement will be shattered not delayed. Is it rational to think that they have come so close to overthrowing the law they despise so much and simply admit defeat? Just go back to Alinsky, Ayers and the echelon of radicals that have been produced, groomed and are rabidly in support of this movement and the answer is clear, they will do as much harm as they can before being dispossessed of their gains or meeting their just end. This is the threat the nation really is being delayed by allowing the usurpation longevity. Possibly the original hope was that it might be delayed four years then muted by a scandalous election process turned against the people by his then firmly entrenched posse.

Joe said...

At this rate, Mario will never stop adding to his appendix. My hat is off to all these researchers for not giving up. How do you guys find this stuff?

Will he be removed? Probably not. He will no more be removed than if the Supreme Court Justice Charles Evans Hughes himself, defender of the Constitution, also not a NBC, won the Presidency from Woodrow Wilson.

We live in corrupt times. No wonder why Americans lost interest in their government so long ago.

History will record that Mario Apuzzo and Charles were the only people who had the moxie to sound the alarm.

This is a precursor to the next President stating he was born in Canada or Mexico, and the MSM and Americans will be fine with it.

How sad. AND I hope I am dead wrong big time!

Mario and Charles, you guys are wonderful. Thank you.

cfkerchner said...

I created a JPG file which I sent out earlier this afternoon to various blogs and news sites and media of the relevant sentences on page 31 or the minutes/record of the Kenyan Assembly session on 25 March 2010. Here is the link to it. You will see others are using it already. Feel free to circulate it further. Post it in the blogs you frequent with your comments.

http://www.kerchner.com/images/protectourliberty/kenyan-assembly-record-2010-03-25-pg31.jpg

And the link to the full session records are at:

http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/downloads/tenth_forth_sess/Hansard/RDRAFT25.03P.pdf

CDR Kerchner

P.S. I need your help to get the word out further via the print media. If you can make a small or large donation it will be greatly appreciated. We have a new ad coming out tomorrow. A very appropriate one given the news out of Kenya. You can read it via the link in the upper right corner image link at this site:
http://www.protectourliberty.org

medical said...

One or more very reliable source(s) in or around Washington advise they heard "through the grapevine" that the Usurper spent time without the press while he was "taking care of some sort of urgent personal business on or near 'R Street' in Washington, only a mile or two from the White House. 'They' claim he has recently become extremely irritable and he is experiencing severe mood swings. No one wants to come near him unless they're forced to.". He MAY have attended a soccer game before or after the meeting (no one would say for sure), but the "soccer game" appears to be nothing more than a cover story. The source(s) vehemently refused to provide more specific information ("NO, SIR!"), except to speculate that the Usurper's multiple substance abuse issues seem to have reached a critical point and 'they' do not believe he will be capable of performing his duties much longer... WHOA, DID I JUST LOCATE HIS MEETING PLACE?! At this moment, I'm viewing a map of "R Street, N.W." and the KENYA EMBASSY is located at 2249 R Street, N.W., near the intersection of Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.! Was the "urgent personal business" a face to face plea for Kenya's silence? Hmmmmmm...

medical said...

Should one of us become a candidate for President of Kenya just to prove how hypocritically Kenyans will react?

Incredulous said...

medical:
"(2) A person is disqualified from being elected a member of Parliament if the
person—
(c) has not been a citizen of Kenya for at least the ten years immediately
preceding the date of election;"
Darn!
I relish your inside scoops on akaBHO. The Kenyan Embassy is sandwiched between the Vietnam Embassy and Armenian Embassy...I wonder if THEY know something was up?

William said...

I cannot help but wonder……….Kenya truly believed that if Obama was elected as the President of the United States with their assistance by denying his birthplace in Kenya itself, thus helping Obama, Kenya in turn would receive special treatment, preferred financial policy with the U.S. and much more. Kenya has complained about Obama’s lack of assistance to them openly and publically. This announcement comes at a very strange time and I cannot but help wonder if it is simply to get his attention, a threat in a minuscule way.

Unbamboozleus said...

It appears that FIX NEWS is hard at work in the cover ups and discrediting of this overwhelmingly credible issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/11/tea-party-rallies-cauldron-conspiracy-theories/?test=latestnews

This propaganda is an abomination to say the least.

Guy4013 said...

I guess everyone may have read a French newspaper article that reports that the French president believes that Obama is a "mad-lunatic" or just plain old American "insane".

The Courts and Congress are going to have to address the "illness" soon as required under the Constitution.

It is far past the time for a resignation from POTUS.

Chris said...

Last night I was reading the Founders, specifically, James Wilson (one of the first six original Supreme Court Justices, signer of both the DoI and the Constitution) on The Law of Nature. Too bad we don't seem to have judges that do this anymore:

"A magistrate knows that it is his duty to promote the good of the commonwealth, which has intrusted him with authority. But whether one particular plan or another particular plan of conduct in office, may best promote the good of the commonwealth, may, in many cases, be doubtful. His conscience or moral sense determines the end, which he ought to pursue; and he has intuitive evidence that his end is good: but the means of attaining this end must be determined by reason. To select and ascertain those means, is often a matter of very considerable difficulty. Doubts may arise; opposite interests may occur; and a preference must be given to one side from a small over-balance, and from very nice views. This is particularly the case in questions with regard to justice. If every single instance of justice, like every single instance of benevolence, were pleasing and useful to society, the case would be more simple, and would be seldom liable to great controversy. But as single instances of justice are often pernicious in their first and immediate tendency; and as the advantage to society results only from the observance of the general rule, and from the concurrence and combination of several persons in the same equitable conduct; the case here becomes more intricate and involved. The various circumstances of society, the various consequences of any practice, the various interests which may be proposed, are all, on many occasions, doubtful, and subject to much discussion and inquiry. The design of municipal law (for let us still, from every direction, open a view to our principal object) the design of municipal law is to fix all the questions which regard justice. A very accurate reason or judgment is often requisite, to give the true determination amidst intricate doubts, arising from obscure or opposite utilities.

Thus, though good and ill, right and wrong are ultimately perceived by the moral sense, yet reason assists its operations, and, in many instances, strengthens and extends its influence. We may argue concerning propriety of conduct: just reasonings on the subject will establish principles for judging of what deserves praise: but, at the same time, these reasonings must always, in the last resort, appeal to the moral sense."

medical said...

Although France is often portrayed as a weak and cowardly nation, that is simply not true. France suffered immense losses during WWI and WWII and they've seen too much warfare, thus they are very careful not to become involved in conflicts which do not directly threaten their nation. Even today, French farmers are often killed by unexploded WWI and WWII ordnance that is accidentally struck by their plows. Today, France possesses a large nuclear arsenal, which mainly serves as a deterrent to attack. French President Sarkozy is a brilliant man and the internal and external intelligence agencies of France are highly competent, capable, and proactive. They carefully observe and report facts, then arrive at logical conclusions. Their assessment of the Usurper's condition matches the conclusions of other top intelligence services around the world. As I have stated in previous posts, many nations are refusing to sign agreements with the Usurper, mainly because they fear those agreements will be nullified because the Usurper is an illegal president. Other nations simply want nothing whatsoever to do with a mentally-ill politician. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21864....................Effects of cocaine abuse : "Central nervous system and psychiatric effects": "Users who have pleasurable experiences report varying degrees of euphoria; increased energy, excitement, and sociability; less hunger and fatigue; a marked feeling of increased physical and mental strength; and decreased sensation of pain. Some will feel a great sense of power and competence that may be associated with the delusion or false sense of grandeur, known as cocainomania. There can be talkativeness, good humor, and laughing. Dilated pupils, nausea, vomiting, headache, or vertigo (the sensation of your surroundings or yourself moving or spinning). With or even without increased amounts of coke, these can progress to excitement, flightiness, emotional instability, restlessness, irritability, apprehension, inability to sit still, teeth grinding, cold sweats, tremors, twitching of small muscles (especially of face, fingers, feet), muscle jerks, hallucinations (cocaine bugs, snow lights, voices and sounds, smells), and cocaine psychosis. Cocaine psychosis resembles paranoid schizophrenia and can bring on paranoia, mania, and psychosis." http://www.emedicinehealth.com/cocaine_abuse/page3_em.htm#Cocaine Abuse Symptoms...........................The first evidence of cocaine use that I look for in a person who is not exerting himself is a noticeable engorgement of the vertical vein located in the center of the forehead. I have found this to be a very reliable indicator. If you know someone who is addicted to cocaine, you'll notice that the vein will return to normal size when the drug wears off. That's a great signal for you to leave and give the addict time to take another dose to "re normalize" himself. Now, have a close look at the following photos of the Usurper and note the size of the vein in the center of his forehead, which becomes very noticeable from the angles photos number 4, 5, 7, and 8 (from the top) were taken. (When someone "spills an ashtray", do the ashes normally fall on top of that someone's shoulders? I don't believe so.) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8038041

jayjay said...

Chris:

Great post, TYVM! James Wilson certainly had it fully and correctly in mind.

Hopefully some of the currect Judicial Branch will begin to take their Constitutionally mandated roles more seriously - as did Wilson's view. Surely they cannot ALL be corrupt (can they???).

We'll keep an eye on that, eh???

medical said...

The following is NOT some crazy theory, it is a well established FACT. This is the foremost reason I purchased two homes in a certain area of Europe. The Nazis made no effort to hide their preparations to exterminate certain parts of the population of Germany, but few believed what they saw - until it was too late. Will you listen and take action, or will you just sit back and allow your precious family to perish before your eyes? REMEMBER, THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE! http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1358.htm

medical said...

@ Incredulous : "(2) A person is disqualified from being elected a member of Parliament if the
person—
(c) has not been a citizen of Kenya for at least the ten years immediately
preceding the date of election;" Don't worry about those silly "qualifications", we'll simply fabricate all the required documentation, dispose of any family members who could expose our scheme, then, when the Kenyans challenge our qualifications to hold office, we'll scream "RACISM!".

medical said...

I highly recommend that everyone purchase a copy of and read "War is a Racket", by MAJOR GENERAL SMEDLEY BUTLER. One part of the book exposes the fact that a group of Generals and Admirals intended to overthrow the U.S. Government just prior to WWII, but their plans were foiled. I doubt you'll ever find a historical account of the event anywhere else.

Incredulous said...

@medical: I keep reading about the FEMA camps, my own Governor Christine Gregoire is now head of of the 10 Governor's Council FEMA consolidation zones (unconstitutional Federal and State position simultaneously)...I've seen the preps, coffins, trains, yet everyone I know poopoos it.
I am seriously wanting to do something...but what? What European country do you suggest? What about Canada? When do you know to make a move? Do you feel all is lost on this nation? Just drive by houses at night and see people's TVs flashing brainwash into their minds, all controlled brainwash, and they are oblivious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5bnVoZK4Q
This video is chilling, it reminds me of us, and now. At first the singer looks happy, then he's deathly serious, then his secret supporters chime in and look vicious. The old man, he knows, he knows, but he is old and can do nothing. The last line, "Do you still think you can control them?" before they leave for Africa...is almost where we are at.
Not Africa, but where?

medical said...

@ Incredulous : PART ONE : THE COMMANDER KERCHNER and MARIO APUZZO CASE POSITIVELY M U S T SUCCEED! Absent a sudden change of course, this nation hasn't a chance of surviving. Canada is worse. View this map. http://www.carpathians.pl/carpath_map.gif Home #1 is in the area marked "Transylvanian Plateau". From there, it's easy to flee into the mountains, where food and water sources abound and stone caverns suitable for long term habitation are common - they're the same temperature year round. Near the bottom of the map, locate "Iron Gate Reservoir" (part of the Danube), which is near home #2. Romania has NO TOLERANCE for illegal immigration. Persons from lazy & dumb parts of the world are not even welcome to visit, except on formal written invitation from the Romanian government. Romania is slowly on the rise, not in decline. To finance a first home, a MANDATORY down payment of 50% in cash is necessary. On a second home, you must pay 100% cash, thus Romania should not experience a banking or currency crisis (they use the Euro and the Romanian Lei). When renting an apartment, be aware that you must furnish everything - kitchen cabinetry, bath fixtures, floor coverings, appliances, light fixtures, etc., when you move in. Home and land values there are stable and higher than here. You won't see GMO foods there, they don't even allow "gas ripened" tomatoes. Petroleum products are very expensive. Fuel is around $7.50 to $10 USD per gallon and an oil and filter change on my wife's little Chevy Aveo was 70 Euros (4 liters of mineral oil, not synthetic), at a discount "quick change" shop (1 Euro = $1.35 USD). Romanians HATE Marxists, socialists, and communists. "Social programs" are being abolished ("we've had enough of creeping socialism, if you're not FULLY disabled or elderly, you'll work or starve"). "National healthcare" is rapidly being phased out - it's inefficient and too expensive. The former "wonderful communists" (who "reasoned" the same way the Usurper and insane Dr. Conspiracy do) were SO compassionate. They constructed multi level orthopedic hospitals with NO ELEVATORS ("get upstairs any way you can or it's the firing squad for you!")! In 1989, "business" took me to Romania. Before going there, "we" learned to speak Romanian. We "accidentally" happened to be there just before and during the Romanian revolution. The outraged and fearless population attacked a modern military with rocks, kitchen knives, Molotov cocktails, shovels, screwdrivers, sharp sticks, tank traps, and other improvised weapons (hmmm, how'd they learn to do that so effectively?) and after a few days of having their armored personnel carriers and tanks turned into flaming death traps, the military fled, leaving behind plenty of weapons and supplies. Soon thereafter, the military agreed to help the revolutionaries. I fell in love with the spirit of those fearless and strong willed people who yearned to be free. They still cherish their hard earned freedom and no one will ever dare to try and take it from them again. At the end of the video (taken Christmas day, 1989), you can hear a cheer from the people on the opposite side of the building when it was announced "Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu have been executed, we are now free people!". http://www.toxicjunction.com/get.asp?i=V3860 My overbearing father refused to allow me to fulfill my dream of becoming a professional race driver ("that's too dangerous, I'll call my friends and YOU'LL never race" - He did just that and it broke my heart), then he had the nerve to DEMAND that I become a politician after completing Emory University...

medical said...

PART TWO: To hurt dad and escape his control, I decided to take on a career that made driving race cars look very safe. My first wife didn't know what my "career" was ("He says he's a cowboy, but I don't believe it, I think he teaches fighting. I don't know, he won't talk about his work. He's gone so much that I'm sure he has another family somewhere"), or who I worked for, she only knew I carried "gear" 24/7, and when my pager sounded, I might vanish for weeks or months, then suddenly reappear with PTSD and lots of cash. When we were in divorce court, she melodramatically stated over and over, "he carries at least THREE CONCEALED LOADED GUNS everywhere he goes, that's DANGEROUS. One strapped to his ankle, one under his arm, and another inside his pants which the handle of is hidden by his shirt". The judge kept prodding me for an explanation, but I kept silent, which REALLY angered him ("you have no business being around your children, you're a criminal". Broken heart number two.). Watch all five of the following automatically advancing videos, then draw your own conclusions regarding my "career". I KNOW NOTHING and I KNOW NO ONE - DON'T ASK. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrtrmeITQNk&feature=PlayList&p=597E6C6083F5E146&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1 --------- "Incredulous", leave when and IF you feel the time is right. Depend upon your own judgment. Keep your eyes and ears open and be prepared to take action at any time. My new wife is already in Romania and so are my beloved son and his wife. I'll do all I can here until the last possible moment. The Jewish synagogue which my son and his wife now attend is in constant prayer for the U.S.A., as is the church they attend on Sundays. The former congregation of the synagogue was 100% wiped out by the Nazis during WWII - the congregation rightfully fears the Usurper ("the new Hitler"). Lest you believe Romania is only populated by backward simpletons and big hairy women, view this video and research "Hermann Oberth". BTW, I was shocked to learn that an average Romanian high school graduate possesses the equivalent education level of an American with a B.A. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEH2gh-zsxM GOD BLESS AMERICA!

medical said...

I fear for the future of The United States of America.

medical said...

It's after 6 A.M. and I haven't slept at all. How can the courts and the useless, corrupt, lower than crack smoking prostitutes in Congress continue to pretend the Usurper's WELL KNOWN and OBVIOUS lack of Constitutional eligibility is a non-issue? Those stinking gutless cowards! THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO KEEP THEIR WORD! THEY NEVER REPRESENT "WE THE PEOPLE"! THEY ALL NEED TO GO! Oath of office for Congress: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God." Federal judicial oaths :
In the United States, federal judges are required to take not just one, but two oaths. The first oath is this:
"I, XXX XXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as XXX under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God."
The second oath that federal judges must take is this; it is the same oath that members of Congress take:
"I, XXX XXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God." DO NOT RE ELECT ONE MEMBER of CONGRESS, THEY'RE ALL 100% USELESS LIARS!!! YES, INCLUDING THAT "FINE UPSTANDING MAN" (THE LYING THIEF THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT) FROM YOUR DISTRICT! ALL CONGRESSMEN and JUDGES ACTUALLY DO IS LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, and GRIN! VOTING FOR ANY INCUMBENT IS AS SENSELESS AS BELIEVING THAT TAKING MORE POISON WILL NEUTRALIZE THE POISON THAT'S ALREADY KILLING YOU! NEITHER THE REPUBLICANS, NOR THE DEMOCRATS REPRESENT "WE THE PEOPLE"!

James said...

The Army appears to taking steps to Court Martial Col. Terry Lakin. The Army's statement to Lakin - "You Have the Right to Remain Silent." http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100413.html

avodlp said...

Society is instituted NOT for the soil but for the 'men' inhabiting it.
Thomas Jefferson to J. Taylor

Dixhistory said...

Amen Charles, a life in prison for all the named defendants in your legal action.



DixHistory Obama rant


Charles said,
"Wouldn't that be great news and a great day for America after living through the last two years of lies and deceit from Obama and this Congress."

medical said...

Today, I have spent hour upon hour chatting with many old friends from all parts of the globe. EVERYONE agrees with Sarkozy's statement about the Usurper being insane. The Sarkozy/insane Usurper news stories from yesterday are already starting to be "scrubbed", save copies! It is SO VERY OBVIOUS that the desperate Usurper's "team" is now attempting to bury Sarkozy's 100% accurate assessment of the Usurper's insanity by fabricating and spreading gossip and lies about Sarkozy's marriage. What a feeble effort to discredit Sarkozy! NOT ONE PERSON is being taken in by the sudden flood of gossip and lies pouring from the Usurper's desperate "team". Not just Americans, but people from all around the world are monitoring the case of LTC Lakin. If LTC Lakin faces a court martial, "suddenly passes away", or he is dismissed from the service, there is no doubt in my mind that a MASSIVE world-wide backlash will occur and the streets of this nation shall be filled with millions of very angry protesters. Members of the U.S. military support LTC Lakin and they are EXTREMELY angry - dumb move, "Usurper"!!! Is the Usurper REALLY insane enough to believe the entire world is deaf, dumb, and blind?! Every one of us grew up near a similar insane "bully", but we all know that someone finally stood up to him, and from then on, the cowardly "bully" always took the back way home. The cowardly Usurper's house of cards is collapsing as we speak! Attempting to stop the sudden flood of damaging facts now being released about the Usurper is as futile as trying to catch all the drops of rain falling from a thunderstorm. (I wish we could ask RICHARD NIXON how panicked he became when his lies finally began unraveling.)

Puzo1 said...

Incredulous said...
Medical, thank you I know you're right, a patriot anywhere stands for freedom everywhere. Lots to digest.

Any American who abides the Kenyan Fraud is a traitor. There is no law requiring Americans to Obey Kenyan illegal aliens.

And as to the matter of Obama being an illegal alien, it goes into another issue...now that we KNOW he was born in Kenya, he is only a Kenyan.
Per the KIA63 he was treated like his father and grandfather, if he was born in Kenya he was only a Kenyan. When we look at his goons' deceptions, they told the partial truth that Obama was born under British rule but that it expired. If he'd have been born in Hawaii if he had not chosen Kenyan citizenship he would still be a British Citizen per the BNA1981. But since he was born in Kenya, he was only singularly ever Kenyan at birth. We don't know if he was adopted and became Indonesian then, but my guess is that when he visited Kenya in 1981 it was to renew his Kenyan citizenship instead of remaining an Indonesian. Both countries do not allow dual citizenships. Rumors are that he attended Occidental as an Indonesian foreign student, but that would not have fit his self-definition, and I believe when he returned to Kenya at age 21 it was to own his birth heritage.

No matter, it's now an issue of "What the hell is anyone doing about it?".
I have a friend who is a high ranking Naval officer, and like Cmdr Kerchner, knows the score and yet says that government has always been filthy corrupt to its core, just that most people were unaware of it. I said that I have never heard of anything of this nature, of a velvet communist coup with a usurper installed...he pointed me to the New Deal, Federal Reserve, Medicare, Medicaid...all chips away at our freedoms by socialists. On the one hand he is appalled by Obama, on the other I sense a stalwart need to not buck the system. I am very disappointed in most of our military this way, and yet feel great pride in the few who are actual heroes, who are sticking their necks out, risking fortunes, families, lives even for our country's good.

[editor's comment: the rest of the post was deleted to keep the comments on point]

Benaiah said...

Welcome to Obamistan

Obama’s disregard for media reaches new heights at nuclear summit

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/13/AR2010041303067_pf.html

World leaders arriving in Washington for President Obama’s Nuclear Security Summit must have felt for a moment that they had instead been transported to Soviet-era Moscow.

They entered a capital that had become a military encampment, with camo-wearing military police in Humvees and enough Army vehicles to make it look like a May Day parade on New York Avenue, where a bicyclist was killed Monday by a National Guard truck.

In the middle of it all was Obama — occupant of an office once informally known as “leader of the free world” — putting on a clinic for some of the world’s greatest dictators in how to circumvent a free press.

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medical said...

@ Incredulous : Americans don't seem to know that most members of the military just "go along to get along". After a short while, recruits realize that those who disclose secrets to ANY unauthorized party and those who "buck the system" "disappear" or have tragic "accidents". There's a common saying in the military that is used as a warning. "Bullets are cheap."

Bill Cutting said...

I think this Kenyan thing is all a smoke screen to cover up the real issue. This blog and the Post&Email have struck some major blows to the putative president's legal standing.

1.Mario's appeal

2.The Alexander Porter Morse NBC article.

3.The Democrat/Breckinridge Long NBC article.Obot apologists will not touch this article with a ten foot pole.

No Lawyer, legal commentator or court has disputed the legal arguments made by Long and Morse.

Like Charles Evans Hughes, Barkle Obama stands ineligible to the office of President.

The Stacker said...

Mario, hold on a second. I have been calling indescribable parts of this man a fraud, if not totally one, but we DO NOT KNOW that he was born in Kenya until we have evidence of it. Just like we do not KNOW he was born in Hawaii until we have evidence of it (which we don't). I can't imagine why a guy like Orengo would say what he said without foundation.

Nevertheless, the whole story is crazy. I do feel ready for the meteoric fall. The president looks BEAT UP lately. Have you seen him? He's feeling all sorts of pressure and looks STRESSED OUT to the max. Barack, it's only 2010, big guy, you've got 2 more years.

Or DO YOU? Hahahaha.

Let's get the smoking gun Mario. What a moment that will be. You've gotta believe that a private investigator could have procured all sorts of substantial info ...

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andy g said...

the problem here is no one care's about american or america. they may care when they need something.
with all the proof you have provided. and now a statement from barack hussein obama's country.
should give more ammonition to go after this undocumented alien. go get em mario...andy from the school

medical said...

@ Incredulous : The official U.S. military "code word" for murder is "discredit", as in "you are to discredit so and so". When military recruits take their enlistment oath, they never seem to notice "...against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC..." until they've been ordered to "discredit" an average U.S. Citizen. I'm not afraid of retribution, I'll disclose the truth whenever and wherever I please. If an illegal Kenyan can occupy OUR White House while the gutless active duty military and corrupt Congress sit on their hands and refuse to act, neither is worthy of our respect!

Robert said...

Quick review:
The Kenyan birth of Mr. Obama has now been asserted by his grandmother, a local Bishop, a Kenyan ambassador, Michelle Obama, and the Kenyan Parliament. In fact, it seems that just about everyone in Kenya - Africa, Europe, Asia, and the rest of the world, except for the US Congress and news media and three Aborigines who left their village to go on a walkabout five years ago,knows where Barrack Obama, Jr. was born - in Kenya.

Obama's mother was not old enough at the time of Barry's birth to pass on US citizenship overseas.

The identity of Obama's British/Kenyan father has been stipulated by Obama.

Birth under British jurisdiction has been stipulated by Obama.

Honolulu, Hawaii and their DOH has nada! Except a big, empty stone wall.

Not only does the definition of Natural Born citizen clearly exclude foreign parentage especially when combined with foreign birth; this even excludes "citizen".

The smart Senators, Reps, Judges, etc. should be working on their CYA programs 24/7. It will be interesting to hear their stories explaining how each of them was completely fooled and/or misled by Mr. Obama and Ms. Pelosi and, and, and... It will also be interesting to see who grows a backbone and starts speaking up for our Constitution.

Special note to the guys mentioned above: Before trying to deny this, try telling everyone that the sun rises in the West and sets in the East. If you can get this down, go for it. If not, you better work on dealing with the truth.

And they better act fast. This information is going viral - foreign and domestic. It will reach all elected officials (and their future opponents). It will reach all commissioned offices and non-commissioned officers and all enlisted military. It will reach all news outlets. It will reach all business and social centers. It will reach all levels of the judiciary and all law enforcement agencies. It will reach all of our daily conversations.

The eyes of the world will be on us to see if we really mean it when we say we have a constitution and that we are a nation ruled by law. I hope we have the right answer.

The Stacker said...

It seems the easiest way for Orengo to substantiate his claim would be if in fact he went back to Kenya from 1981-83 and renewed his citizenship. SURELY there are forms for that. Even if no "birth" aspect is in those forms, BO is screwed in that he can't possibly explain why he was a Kenyan citizen ... and at the same time was an American citizen (supposedly). This information MUST BE HAD.

Spaulding said...

To Bill Cutting and The Stacker, I agree with your concern. Mario's discipline and avoidance of some of the more wild assertions, true though they may be, is important to the credibility of his blog. The historical and legal evidence is sufficient. In spite of the often clever Obama/Alinsky operatives, the majority of Americans are conservative, and will be satisfied with an unassailable violation of our Constitution.

I have seen clever trolls at the few other sites I look at dilute the clear thinking of the well informed with seemingly sympathetic but outlandish and unsupportable charges. Apuzzo and Kerchner have a law suit. The Hughes and Ramsay revelations support the legal and historical truth of legal charges, and are the sorts of issues we need to focus on. Let others discuss rumors about FEMA camps or reputed statements of foreign officials, or what caves we should investigate in Transylvania. Kenyan officials are very likely beholden to the paymasters in Washington. I think it quite possible that, as you said, that the Kenyan Land Commissioner was providing a head fake to distract from Hughes, Ramsay, Lakin, and even the potentially successful run for California Attorney General by Orly Taitz.

Please be merciless with out of band discussions. Many come here to be informed. Reading about where in Romania to buy an escape home, or about the CFR, the Queen and, and orders of Masonry will weaken the clear Constitutional basis of most of the discussion here.

No one has discussed the fact that attempted usurper Charles Hughes, after becoming Chief Justice, wrote the decision in Perkin v. Elg, citing Minor v. Happersett. Do the privileged classes consider the Constitution window dressing, to be cited when it is useful and ignored when it isn't?

medical said...

@ Robert : I'm really tempted to pack and leave today. So far, the corrupt courts, sold out Congress, and the ignorant active duty military may as well be replaced by mannequins, they're ALL useless! The rest of the world can plainly see how weak minded and greedy the "leaders" of this country are. Nero had his own mother and stepbrother executed, has the Usurper done the same or worse to hide his background? The Constitution is burning and the arrogant partying in Washington continues unabated. To HELL with D.C.!

cfkerchner said...

Spaulding:

Dittos. Comments in this blog should stay focused on the legal and historical issues and materials which are the subject of the lawsuit, Article II of the U.S. Constitution. I as the lead plaintiff am staying focused like a laser on that. By some repeatedly taking the discussion threads off in tangential directions does not help the purpose of this blog which is to educate visitors and readers about the lawsuit and the truth of the meaning and purpose of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. I ask all who post hear to also try to do that. Stay focused on my lawsuit and its goal. Thank you.

CDR Kerchner

Unbamboozleus said...

Here's a big cover up/smokescreen story that's the first thing to come up if you google "Kenyan Parliament." They're definitely on the run - too many brush fires to keep a lid on them all.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2010/04/13/did-a-kenyan-member-of-parliament-say-obama-was-born-in-kenya.htm

Puzo1 said...

Unbamboozleus has left a new comment on your post "Current Minister of Kenyan Government Declares Oba...":

Here's a big cover up/smokescreen story that's the first thing to come up if you google "Kenyan Parliament." They're definitely on the run - too many brush fires to keep a lid on them all.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2010/04/13/did-a-kenyan-member-of-parliament-say-obama-was-born-in-kenya.htm

My response: If David Emery is interested in finding out the truth about Mr. Orengo's statement, why does he not make any effort to contact him and ask him personally why he made the statement rather than give ridiculous excuses (51 states, Obama's 57 states, etc., examples) for why Mr. Orengo's statement could be false.

Did Mr. Emery make any attempt at debunking Obama's alleged 2007 Certification of Live Birth (COLB) what was posted on the internet in 2008? About.com.:Urban Legends will surely loose its credibility fast with such biased attempts at debunking what it considers to be an "urban legend."

medical said...

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Erica said...

And my response to UrbanLegends:

Here you go:

James Orengo, Kenyan Minister of Lands, Declares Obama was born in Kenya
http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/04/james-orengo-kenyan-minister-of-lands.html

Hmmm. Kenyan Embassy is Enroute to “Soccer Game” That Never Was
http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/04/hmmm-kenyan-embassy-is-enroute-to.html

President Obama Goes to Soccer Game that Didn’t Exist?
http://www.redstate.com/catcorben/2010/04/11/obama-goes-to-soccer-game-that-didnt-exist/

The Stacker said...

Mario,

Re: David Emery, you are absolutely right. This reminds me of most of the arguments I hear these days. As if getting a number right (51, 57 etc.) is even in the same category of leveling a charge? People don't understand logic anymore, or analysis. Obama being born somewhere is an either/or proposition. Equating that to a detail about a proposition (whether America has x number of states or [name anything] pidgeons, for example) is just stupid and transparently stupid. These guys aren't even good at distracting arguments anymore. Pathetic.

Keep the pressure on, I think this is the 2nd ground swell.

William said...

Mario and Charles,

Today, reporter Megan Kelly on Fox News will be interviewing/questioning Lt. Col Lakin’s actions for refusing to deploy questioning Obama’s birthplace. Do you believe it possible to get a call in from you guys supporting the questions Lt. Col Lakin raises and a small chance to expose your legal challenge as well?

The Stacker said...

Wow, this all of a sudden became VERY relevant:

Now it appears that not only is that a legit document, the post election November 5, 2008 minutes including MULTIPLE members indicating Kenyan status for Obama ... and even to this shady extreme of Obama and Kenyan CONTACT:

Pages 3277-3278: At the beginning of this year, Senator Barrack Obama called me at midnight and told me: “Mr. Vice President, could you make sure you sort out this problem?” I want to assure him that the problem has since been sorted out.

UH OH

The tidal wave is coming ...

cfkerchner said...

For the record the link to the minutes of the 25th of March in the Kenyan National Assembly has been scrubbed and now a 404 error results. The destruction of evidence and cover up continues on a world-wide basis. The rule of law is collapsing world-wide, imo. Fortunately copies of those minutes with the statement by James Orengo, Minister of Lands and Member of Parliament, that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a native born American, exist on dozens if not hundreds of servers of patriots in the USA and world-wide.

CDR Kerchner

James said...

Megyn Kelly to discuss Terry Lakin on The Factor Tonight: Please email Megyn Kelly to set the facts right: kelly@foxnews.com

medical said...

@ CDR KERCHNER : The minutes are recorded at "Parliament of The Republic of Kenya" website. On the home page, see "Hansard", then click "Plenary Hansard 2010" from the drop down menu. On that page, the information is the ninth item from the top and it is downloadable as a 334kB pdf at "Weekly Plenary Hansard 25.03.10". Everyone needs to download and send it to all your contacts while it is still available. VICTORY SHALL BE OURS!

cfkerchner said...

Medical:

I have fixed the links in Mario's essay to go to the new download location on the Kenyan servers. They changed things such that you cannot directly view it on their servers as was the case before. Now you have to download it and open it. They are trying to make it more difficult to view it appears and to not have the view tagged with the official government server in screen shots, etc. JMHO.

They can run but cannot hide. We the People are on to them.

CDR Kerchner
Editor

cfkerchner said...

A great new video on YouTube.com.

Kenyan Parliament Minister Says Obama was Born in Kenya!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD2Y_d7_tAM

CDR Kerchner
www.protectourliberty.org

Joe said...

Just listened to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly and Megyn Kelly segment about Lt. Col. Lakin.

Well they lied about the facts again.

I simply cannot understand why, with the mountain of evidence out there, the media still will not report the truth?

Would we need video evidence of Obama saying his grandma lied about him being born in HI, would that be good enough for them?

No, they probably would cover for him, and say he was just having a bad day.

unbelievable.

cfkerchner said...

I just listened to O'Reilly too on the rerun of his show at 11 pm EST. He is so patronizing on this issue. And he lied again about who placed the two newspaper ads. They were not placed by the family. The Hawaii Health Dept gave a list to two newspapers each week for all births registered that week. Those ads were placed as a public service each week by those two papers. Thus a false registration to the vital records office by Obama's grandma generates the false vital record and registration of a birth (which didn't really happen in HI) and that false registration generated the two newspaper ads. I have written to O'Reilly and Beck and everyone else and explained this to them a dozen times. They don't wish to listen and instead keep spouting the lies to cover up for Obama. I even sent O'Reilly my radio interview with Bill Cunningham last year. O'Reilly either does not read his email or he does know the truth and is lying to the American people. Any serious person investigating how those ads got placed in the Hawaii papers back in 1961 would know the family did not place those standard, boiler plate announcements, the state did. The Hawaii Dept of Health placed those ads based on births registered the week before. Here is the audio I sent to O'Reilly last year and about 6 times since as an attachment to other things I sent to him.

How the Two Newspaper Ads Really Got Placed in the Hawaiian Papers

Post this YouTube video link in any and all discussion threads in the blogs regarding O'Reilly's false statements he made tonight about the two ads.

CDR Kerchner
www.protectourliberty.org

cfkerchner said...

I just sent the below to Bill O'Reilly, once again:

15 April 2010

Hello Mr. O'Reilly,

You do not have the correct facts about how those the 2 newspapers ads were placed in the newspapers in Hawaii in 1961. Your statement on your TV show segment about the birth registration in Hawaii was not correct.

Here is how those two newspaper ads really got placed in the 2 Hawaiian newspapers in 1961. The family did NOT place those ads! The State of Hawaii did.

Listen to my explanation of how the ads were really placed in this interview on the Bill Cunningham radio show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ

CDR Charles Kerchner
Pennsylvania

P.S. Read these too:
1. Birth registration fraud in Hawaii: http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/03/hawaii-law-makers-contemplating.html
2. Kenyan Minister of Lands say Obama born in Kenya and is not a native born American:
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/04/current-minister-of-kenyan-government.html

Joe said...

Charles,
I just had an omg moment. I just listened to the interview you did with Bill Cunningham. Back then you said that his records will show he was born at home.

(Can't imagine they would not make you bring the baby in at 2 months old or something.)

They will never let this information out.

It would be aaahaaaa time. Everyone would know its bull and they can't let the pee-ons know that the Constitution really doesn't mean anything anymore.

Look Fox News just lied, plain and simple. You have to imagine the kind of power over a news organization they have. This would be akin to letting out military secrets.

I am so ashamed of what our gov. is doing to you. You and Mario are a very strong men.

Puzo1 said...

The placement of the identical birth announcements in the Star-Bulletin and Honolulu Advertiser does not prove that Obama was born in Hawaii. The only thing the ads do is confim that someone at the time told the newspapers that Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama had a son, who was born on August 4, 1961. Simply telling a third party that someone was born in a certain place and at a certain time is not conclusive evidence that the birth in fact occurred there at that time. Corroborating evidence is needed to support such a statement. For in-hospital births such as is alleged for Obama, such evidence would be naming the hospital in which the child was born and the doctor who delivered the child.

The birth ads that appear in the two newspaper are identical in content, with the same format and the same chronological order. The ads do not contain the name of the baby, for it does not give the name of the "son." The ads were not placed by the family but rather were generated by the Hawaii Health Department which would explain the format of the ads and why the same exact information appears in two separate newspapers. Finally, common sense tells us that if someone defrauded the Hawaii Health Department regarding whether Obama was born in Hawaii, the ads would be based on fraudulent information and would prove absolutely nothing.

James said...

Bad News! Orly's Quo Warranto Case has been completely dismissed. Her case is dead in the water. As usual, Lack of standing was cited.

The Stacker said...

Mario and Charles,

You mention in the previous posts that you believe that the DOH gave the birth notice, whatever it means, to the newspapers. How did you verify this? Mario's point that

"The ads were not placed by the family but rather were generated by the Hawaii Health Department which would explain the format of the ads and why the same exact information appears in two separate newspapers."

is a very good one, and makes your position both tenable and likely. Here is where it gets interesting, however. Recently I have come to believe that he does not have any real document, rather he got one for the first time when he realized he MUST get something around the time of being a Senator or when he realized he would be shooting for the presidency. After seeing the requests of birth index data and how none showed his name in the records pre 1980, the reason why I doubted that he had one was because I figured it wasn't that he WOULDN'T show, it's that he CAN'T SHOW, because he doesn't have anything.

I think it is very helpful to list the possibilities, in order to clarify our thinking and what might be going on.

What do we know?

1. HE IS CLEARLY HIDING SOMETHING. This conclusion is drawn by any human with a brain. There is no privacy interest in a birth certificate's information, unless it is damaging and you have misrepresented crucial things about your person in the past. Why won't you release it?

I noticed, Bob, that you said that the only one he can get is the new short form COLB --- which is totally false and which you conveniently never addressed when I showed your claim to be so. Are you saying he is not hiding something? Why won't you just agree and say, yes, why are you hiding non privacy interests if you are a truthful person???

2. HE WAS NOT BORN at KAPIOLANI, as congressmen and supposedly he and his family claim. How do I know this? It is far less invasive/there are literally ZERO privacy problems with allowing Kapio'lani to just confirm that they have a record of your birth there. An honest person truly concerned about invasion of privacy would NEVER release a birth document (on the internet) with all sorts of "detailed" information BEFORE doing the easiest thing ---- allow confirmation and thus third party verification of location of birth (details of delivery by attending physician, etc.). This one step, allowing Kapiolani to publicly confirm, puts people truly in a conspiracy position. I have stated time and again that this case is not a conspiracy theory because we can know his birth status right now if he releases any 3rd party witnesses/verifying documents. If we were then to NOT believe Kapiolani, we would be conspiracy theorists, because we would then be calling them liars and there's no way we can know.

3. He was born a British citizen, due to his father's sole citizenship to Kenya, by his own admission and confirmed by even factcheck.org. Whether he was a dual citizen of the US is our concern and what that means. Mario has made compelling arguments as to what a Natural Born Citizen is, which need not be re-hashed here. The issue DOES need to be resolved by the Supreme Court to say once and for all what article II means and so we can set up a commission or agency to confirm presidential eligibility, with at least some duty of transparency to the public.

4. Multiple Kenyan parliamentary members claim that he was born in Kenya. A local bishop and his grandmother affirm, as does the Kenyan Ambassador to the United States.

5. He was adopted by his mother's second husband, Lolo Soetoro, when they moved to Indonesia and was listed on at least one document in early school as a muslim. Reports are equivocal about having to have Indonesia citizenship to be schooled. He did however stay in that country through elementary/middle school.

6. There are no public records/transcripts/theses/publications, witnessed to or verified by a 3rd party, of Obama.

The Stacker said...

Now I'd like to pose a question to you guys:

If Obama has an entry and it is substantiated by affidavits, you're up CRAP CREEK. Aren't you???

Yes, he'll look bad, but you'll have to find the SMOKING GUN anyway. If that's the shady stuff that Hawaii does, they were a US State, and it sucks for us = he pulled it off.

If you have incontrovertible evidence that he was born in Kenya, however, then you have a game changer. If he didn't just ask for a birth cert for the first time in 2005-2007, like I thought, you guys are fighting an uphill battle. It seems to me you need to verify if there are:

- Any records of his birth pre 1980 as Charlton has tried to do.

- Find some way to PROVE that he wasn't born at Kapiolani

- Find incontrovertible evidence of of birth in Kenya or Kenyan citizenship post 1981

The former leads to the latter. The only remaining recourse is for a state to require original birth certificates for candidate eligibility on the ballot. Even that will be fought in election 2012, which would bring up more questions ...

I look forward to your thoughts or answers.

James said...

It looks like the Quo Warranto suffers from the same barriers of standing we have unable to get around. Unless your case goes through, our last hope may be with LtCol. Terry Lakin. Lakin would unquestionably have standing in a suit.

jayjay said...

The Stacker:

Hmmm!!! You sound remarkably like many of the Flying Monkeys who have not read the details of the Kerchner et al action in the various pleadings as many of your statements are WAY off-base.

One VERY large point you and the other Flying Monkeys have missed is that the burder of proof is not on the Plaintiffs to prove Obama is not eligible bur rather upon Obama to prove that he IS eligible.

That man (nor anyone else for that matter - including you) has never shown himself to be legally eligible to hold the office he now occupies which, BTW, is mandated by the black-letter law of this land - the United States Constitution. It is far, far more than only a birth certificate (or not) showing him to be born anywhere, it is a matter of the man proving his eligiblity and he is stated in writing on official documents that be is both Constitutionally eligible AND is a natural born citizen (of which there is much evidence to the contrary including a good bit from what may very well be his home country - Kenya). Since the man proclaims himself to be a Constitutional lawyer, etc. one would think that he would, therefore, know that the Constitutional definition of nbC is a person born of two US citizen parents on US soil. He seems not to know that.

And THAT is especially strange in view of the fact that he was one of the sponsors of SR511 proclaiming that a requirement (for McCain in this instance) is two US citizen parents and born on what they mistaken believed to be "US soil" - the Canal Zone which by treaty is NOT "USA soil". But taking the SR511 information as it stands, Obama - a sponsor - also voted to pass it. Are we also to think, perhaps that he "forgot" or maybe never read the resolution or that he did not understand that the "s" in "citizens" meant more than one??? Perhaps.

Moreover, the Mar. 25 2010 statement by the Kenyan Minister of Lands is part of the official debate on the forthcoming Kenyan Constitution in that country recorded on what is called a Plenary Hansard for Kenyan posterity - more or less the equivalent of our original Constitutional Convention and its documentation.

So I'd suggest you do some intensive reading of the legal papers on Mario's site as you're certainly missing most of the legal points. If you're merely playing Flying Monkey games, you'd do well to try another site since there are a number of that type around ...

Mostly, though, you seem to have things largely bass-ackwards.

cfkerchner said...

How the Media Lied about Obama’s Birth Records | by By Margaret Calhoun Hemenway | @ Accuracy in Media

http://www.aim.org/guest-column/how-the-media-lied-about-obamas-birth-records/

CDR Kerchner
www.protectourliberty.org

A pen said...

The Kenyan site is scrubbed from view. Thanks Obama, you proved the merit of it while missing that nonexistant softball game on the way to the Kenyan embassy.

cfkerchner said...

WND investigation first in 2009 and follow on stories in 2010 into how the newspaper ads were placed in those two papers in 1961 by the state, not the family. See these two and many other articles as to how the Honolulu Advertiser and the other sister pub got the announcement insertions from a list from the state each week, not from the families. These were public service birth announcements provided by the state. Garbage/falsified data on the available simple mail-in form sent into the birth registration office in 1961 by a fraudulent filing by Obama's grandmother to get her foreign born new grandson U.S. citizenship illegally but easily given Hawaii's lax laws back then yields a birth announcement in the paper for a birth in Hawaii that was registered there but did not physically occur in Hawaii, as James Orengo, Member of Parliament, in Kenya recently attested to, as have other MPs in Kenya and as have members of Obama's paternal line family in Kenya.

Newspaper Ads Do Not Prove Birth Place - July 2009 - WND

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=121136

CDR Kerchner
www.protectourliberty.org

cfkerchner said...

Another Kenyan Minister states on 14 April 2010 that Kenya is Obama's "home country"!

Kenyan Minister Khalwale Asks When Obama Will Repatriate Himself to his "Home Country"| @ Jefferson's Rebels

http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/04/kenyan-minister-khalwale-asks-when.html

Pile the above state on top of another Kenyan minister's statement on 25 March 2010 that Obama "was born in Kenya" and is "not a native American" and the facts are obvious as is explained in this essay by Atty Mario Apuzzo. Obama was born in Kenya and not in Hawaii. Any birth registrations filed for Obama in Hawaii by his family back in 1961 was falsified.

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/04/current-minister-of-kenyan-government.html

When is the U.S. main stream media going to cover what is being said in Kenya and stop schilling and covering up for Obama. Obama is not even a native born American, let alone a "natural born Citizen" as is required for the office he usurps.

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/04/newspaper-birth-announcement-ads-in.html

It is time for the 4th Estate of our Constitutional Republic the free press and media and/or the Republican Party to wake up and speak the truth to the fraud of Obama and call for congressional hearings to determine Obama's true legal identity to constitutional standards and then take appropriate action. This disgrace to our nation cannot be allowed to continue.

CDR Charles Kerchner
Pennsylvania
http://www.protectourliberty.org
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A said...

The link in the April 11th article re: Kenyan Official's comments, does not have the March 25 minutes listed anymore. It has been removed.

cfkerchner said...

Thank you "A".

This is the second time the Kenyan government has changed the URL location for those official minutes/record of the Kenyan National Assembly on 25 Mar 2010.

It appears that the Kenyan government is reacting to pressure from Obama via official channels to hide those minutes and/or scrub it. This has been Obama's m.o. for his recent life. Hide and scrub all records of his true legal identity and falsify a new one.

I have fixed the links in Mario's article to point to a copy of those official minutes uploaded to the SCRIBD.com servers.

Thank you again for reporting the broken link.

CDR Kerchner
http://www.protectourliberty.org
[Editor]