tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post4175988111911313916..comments2024-03-02T14:24:03.076-05:00Comments on Natural Born Citizen - A Place to Ask Questions and Get the Right Answers: Why the “Natural Born Citizen” Clause of Our Constitution Is Important and Worth PreservingMario Apuzzo, Esq. http://www.blogger.com/profile/12200858207095622181noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-17900674875408329442014-04-03T15:36:17.827-04:002014-04-03T15:36:17.827-04:00Its important to show the reason for the law of na...Its important to show the reason for the law of natural born citizens, referenced in law of nations, a book cited in the constitution; is that one has loyalty to your country, and loyalty to your father. That should not be tested by a president. And its a real concern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-33924451911361511292009-10-12T15:49:38.888-04:002009-10-12T15:49:38.888-04:00The Federal Courts Are Committing Treason to the C...The Federal Courts Are Committing Treason to the Constitution per Chief Justice John Marshall.<br /><a href="http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/10/federal-courts-are-committing-treason.html" rel="nofollow">http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/10/federal-courts-are-committing-treason.html</a><br /><br />The federal courts and judges are committing treason to the Constitution by not taking jurisdiction and getting to the merits in the various cases before them regarding the Article II eligibility clause question for Obama.<br /><br />It is worth keeping in mind the words of U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall when he wrote in Cohens v. Virginia 19 US 264 (1821):<br /><br /><i>"It is most true that this Court will not take jurisdiction if it should not: but it is equally true, that it must take jurisdiction if it should. The judiciary cannot, as the legislature may, avoid a measure because it approaches the confines of the constitution. We cannot pass it by because it is doubtful. With whatever doubts, with whatever difficulties, a case may be attended, we must decide it, if it be brought before us. We have no more right to decline the exercise of jurisdiction which is given, than to usurp that which is not given. The one or the other would be treason to the constitution. Questions may occur which we would gladly avoid; but we cannot avoid them. All we can do is, to exercise our best judgment, and conscientiously to perform our duty. In doing this, on the present occasion, we find this tribunal invested with appellate jurisdiction in all cases arising under the constitution and laws of the United States. We find no exception to this grant, and we cannot insert one."</i><br /><br />Link to the treason quote in case context:<br /><a href="http://www.kerchner.com/images/protectourliberty/chiefjusticemarshallwordsontreasontoconstitution.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.kerchner.com/images/protectourliberty/chiefjusticemarshallwordsontreasontoconstitution.jpg</a><br /><br /><br />Link to Case Summary:<br /><a href="http://www.oyez.org/cases/1792-1850/1821/1821_0" rel="nofollow">http://www.oyez.org/cases/1792-1850/1821/1821_0</a><br /><br />Link to Full Case:<br /><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=19&invol=264" rel="nofollow">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=19&invol=264</a><br /><br />The Judge in the Kerchner v Obama & Congress lawsuit and the Judges in the other cases should simply read the words of U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Marshall from the past and take jurisdiction of the constitutional question of the Article II eligibility clause in the Constitution and proceed to a fact finding hearing and trial on the merits to see if Obama is Constitutionally eligible or not. I say Obama is NOT eligible. But we need the federal courts to take the cases and get a SCOTUS ruling to settle this.<br /><br />Charles F. Kerchner, Jr.<br />CDR USNR (Ret)<br />Lead Plaintiff<br />Kerchner et al v Obama & Congress et al<br /><a href="http://puzo1.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://puzo1.blogspot.com/</a><br /><a href="http://www.protectourliberty.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.protectourliberty.org</a>cfkerchnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02941086863044892649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-7877415086111816972009-08-10T23:59:45.921-04:002009-08-10T23:59:45.921-04:00James,
Court rules do not permit a party to just...James, <br /><br />Court rules do not permit a party to just keep sending more legal arguments to the Court. Once the procedure is exhausted, there is nothing left to do but wait for the Court to decide. That is what we are doing now. <br /><br />Mario Apuzzo, Esq.Mario Apuzzo, Esq. https://www.blogger.com/profile/12200858207095622181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-22508159700756155402009-08-10T23:47:44.233-04:002009-08-10T23:47:44.233-04:00I have already written on more than one occasion i...I have already written on more than one occasion in this blog that neither the 14th Amendment nor Wong Kim Ark makes a "natural born Citizen." <br /><br />Mario Apuzzo, Esq.Mario Apuzzo, Esq. https://www.blogger.com/profile/12200858207095622181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-11420574720664644982009-08-10T23:22:36.536-04:002009-08-10T23:22:36.536-04:00I think your right Joeseph. I would raise the arg...I think your right Joeseph. I would raise the argument that an ordinary citizen is different from a citizen who the POTUS due to the powers and abilities given to the POTUS. Further, I would argue that a citizen might in fact be a "Natural Born" citizen sufficient for an ordinary citizen but not for the POTUS. Since, we know that there is a class of citizen who hold the qualification of being born on US Soil to 2 US citizens you can assume those citizens hold the highest degree of allegience and loyalty to the US. The person who is the POTUS should therefore be held to that highest degree given his position and powers.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793622722554168489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-3894032053369229772009-08-10T22:47:27.175-04:002009-08-10T22:47:27.175-04:00Joseph from Maine:
I'd like to remind you of ...Joseph from Maine:<br /><br />I'd like to remind you of part of what Winston Churchill said when addressing his old school and schoolmates at Harrow in 1941:<br /><br />"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy."jayjayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845961766550552240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-42829561774653499542009-08-10T22:21:08.529-04:002009-08-10T22:21:08.529-04:00Mario,
When will you guys next be on air? I want ...Mario,<br /><br />When will you guys next be on air? I want to call in again. You always think me the trickster but I think I do a valuable service in elucidating your arguments and qualities. In fact, when I re-listen to your shows I often come out with a better appreciation for who you guys are and what you stand for.<br /><br />Did you see Donofrio's comment on Horace Gray's opinion in USA vs. Ark? I don't know how one couldn't see plain as day that he is absolutely on point with that one: "Ark is as much a citizen as the natural born citizen ..."<br /><br />---> meaning both are citizens, enjoying full rights, but the former doesn't have something the latter does ...<br /><br />THE ABILITY TO QUALIFY FOR PRESIDENT!The Stackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741360853135194177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-11470602513740936472009-08-10T21:26:02.575-04:002009-08-10T21:26:02.575-04:00The Kerchner suit is the lawsuit that no one talks...The Kerchner suit is the lawsuit that no one talks about. Assuming that it isn't dismissed, the media is about to get quite a suprise. <br /><br />Mario, do you have any legal power to further stress the merits of your case to the court and to sway it to rule in your favor.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793622722554168489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-85679393935702159622009-08-10T20:20:45.845-04:002009-08-10T20:20:45.845-04:00Commander Kirshner I salute you for your leadershi...Commander Kirshner I salute you for your leadership and patriotism.<br /><br />Attorney Apuzzo you are also a great patriot and a credit to your profession. <br /><br />Millions of citizens who love their country are behind you 110%. <br /><br />Keep up the GOOD FIGHTDrJim77https://www.blogger.com/profile/01778226394448048421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-50775941915916054102009-08-10T20:03:19.993-04:002009-08-10T20:03:19.993-04:00The more and more you look at the "facts"...The more and more you look at the "facts" and you think about it, the more Mario and Charles become the only clear thinkers of the whole lot. Orly and Berg claim certain knowledge and demand attention, but they never deliver. WND keeps coming up with more stories, but it's getting old. I've gotta say at this point it is tiresome.<br /><br />I'm still hoping Charles and Mario get it done, but look: they don't get any press and they aren't kooky or have baggage like the others. This is what makes me sad. I think the zenith may have come and already went --- unless Kerchner v. Obama comes up big.The Stackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741360853135194177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-83024864405517449012009-08-10T17:59:39.849-04:002009-08-10T17:59:39.849-04:00I was listening to Phil Berg and Orly today. The m...I was listening to Phil Berg and Orly today. The media really should interview Mario and Charles. Out of everyone, these persons convey the most convincing arguments.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793622722554168489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-52647328856368558702009-08-10T14:05:37.523-04:002009-08-10T14:05:37.523-04:00Father of Handicapped Son Received Threats After C...<b>Father of Handicapped Son Received Threats After Confrontation With Rep. Dingell</b><br />http://www.breitbart.tv/father-of-handicapped-son-received-threats-after-confrontation-with-rep-dingell/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-23178521324938994512009-08-10T00:09:33.782-04:002009-08-10T00:09:33.782-04:00Platitudes, Platitudes...
I care nothing for figh...Platitudes, Platitudes...<br /><br />I care nothing for fighting the good fight and coming in second place. <br /><br />I fight to win. Our Country is at stake.<br /><br />I'm in full agreement with Charles Kerchner. all in full agreement.sjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15629410082385082628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-30064988322918947612009-08-09T22:21:54.720-04:002009-08-09T22:21:54.720-04:00It may very well possible that Obama's birth i...It may very well possible that Obama's birth in Kenya is not True:<br /><br />http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106471<br />Globe: Obama's Hawaiian birth document fake<br />Cover story in tabloid suggests Canadian connection<br /><br />Could Obama have been born in Canada?<br /><br />Worth checking into.<br /><br />In any event, I think there is good chance that Obama WAS NOT born in Hawaii.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793622722554168489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-71532352986751216672009-08-09T20:52:04.773-04:002009-08-09T20:52:04.773-04:00Indeed, Mario, indeed.
God Bless.Indeed, Mario, indeed.<br /><br />God Bless.The Stackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741360853135194177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-41373703114917103752009-08-09T20:43:11.347-04:002009-08-09T20:43:11.347-04:00Joseph of Maine:
When one decides to engange in...Joseph of Maine: <br /><br />When one decides to engange in any struggle, one has to know that one can succeed or fail. But knowing those two possible outcomes is no reason not to undertake the challenge. One studies the problem and makes a decision to accept or not accept the challenge. One measures all the consequences of action or non-action. Ultimately, it is our own values which will motivate to take the decison that we chose. <br /><br />Knowing that one might fail, for whatever reason, should not be an obstacle to taking the proper action. In the end, having acted for the right reasons will make one a better person and will also positively impact the society, even if it is in some small way. <br /><br />That being said, I now have to place my trust in the Court and just wait for a decision. I do not have to remind anyone that when the Court makes a decision, there will be a winner and a loser. Based on my and so many other's undertanding of the "natural born Citizen" clause, we definitely should be the winners. <br /><br />Mario Apuzzo, Esq.Mario Apuzzo, Esq. https://www.blogger.com/profile/12200858207095622181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-57494267027322434682009-08-09T20:28:33.681-04:002009-08-09T20:28:33.681-04:00Joseph from Maine:
As Shakespeare sain in the Mer...Joseph from Maine:<br /><br />As Shakespeare sain in the Merchant of Venice (c. 1600):<br /><br />"... at the length truth will out ..."<br /><br />So 'tis here methinks ...jayjayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09845961766550552240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-48886152730186261432009-08-09T20:23:15.694-04:002009-08-09T20:23:15.694-04:00I would expect the same intense effort to remove a...I would expect the same intense effort to remove any ineligible POTUS, this isn't about Obama the black man. It's about Obama the non NBC President.<br /><br />I have seen where the left has mentioned past candidates who ran for the office of POTUS whom they say were non NBC. <br /><br />Goldwater for one is mentioned, in that he was born in the Territory of Arizona. <br /><br />As Berg has found out the SCOTUS allows ineligible candidates to run for president as a 1st amendment right. If the Republican Party wanted to waste their efforts on Goldwater in 1964 with the afore knowledge he had blemishes, or alleged blemishes, that could disqualify him, so be it. If those blemishes were true it would not justify his admission to the Oval office solely based upon election results had he won. None of the examples provided by Obamaists were ever elected, so to me that is what is called a moot point. How does comparing Obama's position as a de facto President to the moot point of past non winning Canidates even makes a logical argument? <br /><br />I suppose when you don't have the truth on your side, a grasping for straws defense is all that's left.sjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15629410082385082628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-11773724047604581052009-08-09T19:48:21.646-04:002009-08-09T19:48:21.646-04:00Mario,
Your point is well taken. And you should d...Mario,<br /><br />Your point is well taken. And you should do what you believe in, just as all of those [great] men did. However, the proof of my point lies in the details. Ultimately, their freedom of action was not dependent on others. Such is the case here, and more importantly, it is dependent on those who don't consider principle and the rule of law as as valuable and crucial as you and I do.<br /><br />I must admit however, that you are noble and as I have thought and said many times, correct in your arguments and efforts.<br /><br />My aim is not to deter but rather to temper the hope of some who may expect GRAND things when the reality is that the value is in the fight and even the smallest progress that can be obtained through it. As I said, I could be wrong about what happens, but my comments have never been about you. Since I believe in your efforts, my disdain and pessimism (which I call realism, just as I would call optimism in certain circumstances realism) comes from what I see as an increasingly uneducated lazy populace with similarly lost leaders. So it's not about you, it's about THEM.<br /><br />Fight the good fight. That is where my hope is, and in that I find all the meaning, as I think you also agree and point out. That said, I also find it important to discuss what is going on overall with an even keel. These are my thoughts, God knows I could be wrong with some of them.<br /><br />I have faith that the truth always comes to light but with that thought is an accompanying realization that it may fall in a way that is not necessarily in step with our human paths, wills, or desires --- perhaps it manifests itself in ways outside of our understanding. I think you can understand where I'm coming from.The Stackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741360853135194177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-6663144993798945962009-08-09T18:46:39.272-04:002009-08-09T18:46:39.272-04:00Larry Sinclair Is Right About Obama Being a Thug
h...<b>Larry Sinclair Is Right About Obama Being a Thug</b><br />http://www.thepinkflamingoblog.com/larry-sinclair-is-right-about-obama-being-a-thug/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-64620037457841833112009-08-09T16:20:43.748-04:002009-08-09T16:20:43.748-04:00To Joseph from Maine,
I do not understand what a...To Joseph from Maine, <br /><br />I do not understand what a "realist" is. How do we measure and judge "realism?" How do we know when we have reached the limit of human potential? <br /><br />Were Jesus Christ, Aristotle, Galileo Galilei, Leonardo Da Vinci, Sir Isaac Newton, Christopher Columbus, the Founding Fathers, Abraham Lincoln, Enrico Fermi, Henry Ford, Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Bill Gates, to name a few, realists? Probably not. Did they achieve great things? Yes. These individuals had a dream of what they could accomplish. They put into action their vision. The rest is history. <br /><br />Mario Apuzzo, Esq.Mario Apuzzo, Esq. https://www.blogger.com/profile/12200858207095622181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-26532066531160646772009-08-09T16:12:12.522-04:002009-08-09T16:12:12.522-04:00Mario,
I know I said this before, but is it possi...Mario,<br /><br />I know I said this before, but is it possible to file an additional motion urging the court to render its decision while stating that your plantiffs continued to be injured be by Obama's usurperness with each passing day and they are further injured by the court's delay in rendering a motion allowing this case to move forward into discovery? Further, Congress's recent failures to give any serious consideration to this matter further erodes your plantiff's liberty, oath, and trust with our government. Your plantiff's will have a difficult time as citizen of US and a taxpayer giving any support to any laws or social policies passed by Congress and authorized by Obama because is ineligible to be POTUS.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793622722554168489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-17845549028356667372009-08-09T15:46:22.216-04:002009-08-09T15:46:22.216-04:00President Obama is considered by Kenya to the &quo...President Obama is considered by Kenya to the "Son of the Soil". It could mean he was born in Kenya. In any event, Obama is considered by Kenya to be their "Child". This type of allegience do not match up to the founding father's intent. If Obama's father became a US citizen this might be OK because by doing so, Obama's father would have had to swear sole allegiance to the US thus severing his ties with Kenya.(In terms of Allegience) This premise is definitely more in line to the intent of our founding fathers regarding Natural Born citizenship.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793622722554168489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-57898237249680627832009-08-09T15:32:33.523-04:002009-08-09T15:32:33.523-04:00There seems to be little or no case law regarding ...There seems to be little or no case law regarding the "Natural Born" citizenship requirement for POTUS. But, I think we can use a greater precedent; The History of our American Presidency. Since President Van Buren, all presidental candidates and actual presidents have been Natural Born citizens (Born in US to 2 US citizens) (Except for Chester Arthur but that is argumentative.). I think it is reasonable to assume that the general consensus qualification to be President has always been Born on US Soil to 2 US citizens. If Natural Born Citizenship only entailed being born on US Soil, it is also logical to assume that through many of the elections, candidates of direct foreign orgins would have been on the ballot. Other countries would have certainly taken advantage of the only requirement (Being Born on US Soil) to try to influence our country with the "Children" of their country. This does not seem to be the case. Neverthless, it does appear that in recent times, we drifting towards that premise. "Children" of other countries do appear to be getting on our ballots and getting elected into the POTUS. This appears to be a fundamental drift from the general premise that has been followed through much of American Presidency.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01793622722554168489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7466841558189356289.post-15439969253993300702009-08-09T14:20:17.362-04:002009-08-09T14:20:17.362-04:00giveusliberty,
I am the voice of reality and reas...giveusliberty,<br /><br />I am the voice of reality and reason in this terrible storm. If Obama has disqualified himself, why isn't it so obvious --- meaning that he should be gone already? I agree that the strongest case is what Mario and Charles are fighting for ... however the only obvious thing is that "natural born" means born on our soil. Indeed we are in strange times. It's actually hysterical that because of that terminology and it not having been defined offiically as per candidate eligibility --- again, if we don't even check for eligibility, how could we know what we are even checking for? --- that people think it more important to be born here than to 2 american citizen parents. The latter is clearly FAR more important as to allegiance and conflict!<br /><br />The timing sadly has to be right and these are tumultuous times, which puts the SCOTUS in a tough spot. Again, I really hope that discovery happens so that people can see with certainty what they are beginning to believe about this leader of ours --- he is a liar. Being a realist, I can no more than hope about it (just like the idiot obots during the campaign) because it just isn't realistic. My greatest desire is to make it apparent that he is untrustworthy and thus becomes a lame duck. Also, the media being exposed for its lame tricks and dishonest reporting would finally be official. I don't see any removal happening.<br /><br />Could I be wrong? Absolutely. But I'm a man off odds ... and they are against this happening.The Stackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11741360853135194177noreply@blogger.com