From: Charles Kerchner, Commander USNR (Retired)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 at: http://puzo1.blogspot.com
Glenn, you say you have studied the founders and framers of our U.S. Constitution to try to learn more about the original intent and meanings of the words therein.
I Believe The Fix Was In for the 2008 Election and The Cover Up is Still Going Strong and Has Created The Perfect Storm for a Constitutional Crisis! http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/01/i-believe-fix-was-in-for-2008-election.html
Glenn, when are you going to read the preeminent legal treatise of the time of the Revolutionary War against Great Britain that was used by the founders to write the Declaration of Independence and the framers to craft our U.S. Constitution. Benjamin Franklin referred to it as being in heavy use and demand by the delegates at the Continental Congress in 1775 when four copies were sent to him by Dumas who published a newly edited edition in 1775. It was written in French the diplomatic language of the time of which Benjamin Franklin and many others who founded our nation were fluent in as well as English.
The term, "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness", is a direct quote from this book. And there are many more quotes from it in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution. And this renowned legal book is even mentioned by name in Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution.
This book was the legal reference book describing a new form of government for governing a Constitutional Republic with a written Constitution that George Washington had on his desk and was observed reading from in his first day in office in New York and it was the legal book John Jay had on his desk as the 1st Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. John Jay's letter to George Washington is the reason the legal term of art from that legal book is in Article II of the U.S. Constitution as to the eligibility requirements to be President.
The name of the book is, "The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law", by Vattel. I recommend you read it. If you don't have time to read it all, read at least Volume 1. And if you don't have time to read that, then read Vol.1, Chapter 19, Section 212, on the natural law definitions of being a "Citizen" and the separate meaning and definition of the legal term of art "natural born Citizen".
Glenn, the question of constitutional eligibility regarding Obama is not whether he is a Citizen of the U.S., but whether he is a "natural born Citizen" of the U.S. to Constitutional standards as envisioned by the founders and framers of the Constitution and reiterated in four U.S. Supreme Court decisions over the next 100 years of this nation until the progressive movement of the most recent 100 years started to blur those two terms in the eyes and minds of the American people so their political party can put forward and elect anyone to the office of President and Commander in Chief (CINC) of our military. The President and CINC per the founders intent must have sole allegiance at birth to only the USA with no citizenship at birth from his parents in any other nation. That is a "natural born Citizen", must have citizenship and allegiance at birth to only the USA. He must be born in the USA to two Citizens of the USA to achieve natural born Citizenship and sole allegiance at birth. Obama was born with dual-citizenship. He was not eligible per the founders intent. But the Progressive movement has convinced People otherwise. And you are helping them with their cover up.
Read Vattel's, "The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law", Vol. 1, Chapter 19, Section 212. This is natural law given to nature from God. Pray on it. Then speak the truth from the heart. Speak truth to power. You have the ability to save the Constitution and the Republic. Please speak up on the true meaning of "natural born Citizen" and educate the People on the difference between born Citizen, naturalized Citizen, and "natural born Citizen"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11737124/Citizenship-Terms-Used-in-the-US-Constitution-The-5-Terms-Defined-Some-Legal-Reference-to-Same
I am a Son of the American Revolution. I served my country in the military for 33 years on active duty and reserves. I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, not to defend a President or a man.
Please read this book and then speak out about it on your shows.
Sincerely,
Charles Kerchner
Commander USNR (Retired)
Pennsylvania
http://www.protectourliberty.org
P.S. Where to buy the book for less than $15:
http://www.amazon.com/LAW-NATIONS-Natural-Law-Paper/dp/0865974519/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264713108&sr=8-1
21 comments:
BRAVO, CHARLES!
I just realized today that there is more and better evidence that Obama is a Marxist than a natural born citizen.
See here: http://citizen.home.texas.net/images/ObamaMarxistRelationsChart.jpg
Get ready now to enlighten the public at the spring Tea Parties: http://www.cafepress.com/CandidSmack
Charles, great post!
My hubby was livid after those comments by Beck. He never was political before, but we have awoken another sleeping giant and he is promoting yours & the constitutions cause across every road he travels while trucking.
"...when Jefferson inaugurated the study of the Law of Nature and Nations at Willian and Mary College in 1779, the text from then until 1841 was Vattel's. Vattel was also the text at Dartmouth College from 1796-1828."
John Jay was, if briefly, a student of Jefferson's at William and Mary. Vattel was mainstream political philosophy during the writing of The Constitution. Law of Nations was significantly the most cited legal source in American jurisprudence between 1789 and 1820 (F.S. Ruddy, The Acceptance of Vattel, Grotian Society Papers 1972)
All of the above posters:
WOW! Great posts; "Tinhorn" has some fine links; "constitutionallyspeaking" needs to give her hubby a big hug and kiss from all real Americans; and "Spaulding" offers some great points that, hopefully, Mario and Charles will pick up on.
And for those of you who haven't seen them thses two short videos (shich start slowly) build into some telling points about the man who has never shown himself to be eligible to hold the office he now occupies.
The second video, in fact, has a VERY telling quote from the Roman Senator Cicero in 42 BC ... almost as though he foresaw BHO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsX5DzZHkIU Three Little Words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGG8tIJNMY Merry Christmas OmeriKa!!
Vattel and his "Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law" and that treatise's influence on the writers of and the writing of the Declaration of Independence:
http://east_west_dialogue.tripod.com/vattel/id3.html
Charles Kerchner
CDR USNR (Ret)
http://www.protectourliberty.org
Spaulding,
Thank you for that citation.
All,
See the last paragraph of page 191 at this site:
F.S. Ruddy, The Acceptance of Vattel, Grotian Society Papers 1972
Charles
My apologies. In my statement about Jefferson's students at William and Mary, I should have said John Marshall. Bushrod Washington joined Marshall for lectures by George Wyth in 1780 (from The Chief Justiceship of John Marshall). The new nation was understandably well informed about the legal philosophies of citizeship and allegiance.
A fellow patriot sent me the link to this song.
http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=5348
Charles
In my personal opinion, Beck is either too Supreme Court Case illiterate or too afraid to debate because he would lose his lucrative career over this issue. Personally, by calling us stupid, Beck is the worst kind of hypocrite. He demands the White House legitimately respond to his inquiries and debate him, while demeaning ours, refusing to debate us. Beck descends into skirli puerility when he mentions this issue, while mocking us (and the very Constitution he PRETENDS he 100% upholds). I call him a liar on that point, because he REFUSES to call Article 2's specificity of a Natural Born Citizen as RELEVANT: a clause that demands that US NBC to the Presidency be by a US citizen father for the entire history of this nation (Weedin v. Chin Bow, etc.) well past the timeline of 1961. Obama's father lived and died a Kenyan national...never was he a US Citizen.
In Bute v. Illinois, 333 U.S. 640, at 653 (1948) …the burden is on Obama is to prove his claim of an US NBC status: "The burden of establishing a delegation of power to the United States or the prohibition of power to the states is upon those making the claim." --
and provide documents and other proofs such as laid out in one circumstance ...such as in 2001’s 533 US 53, NGUYEN ET AL. v. INS @ 54 :
“The mother's relation is verifiable from the birth itself and is documented by the birth certificate or hospital records and the witnesses to the birth.”
@62:” In the case of the mother, the relation is verifiable from the birth itself. The mother's status is documented in most instances by the birth certificate or hospital records and the witnesses who attest to her having given birth.”
(http://supreme.justia.com/us/333/640/case.html
http://supreme.justia.com/us/533/53/)
Hence, the demand for Obama to produce his Long Form Birth Certificate is a valid demand…
On this issue, Beck is misinformed, and would get his creamed in a heated no holds barred Birther debate. By existing case law, Obama needs to be prove himself a US NBC in the US Supreme Court, and when found guilty as unqualified, tried by Military Tribunal with the potential for the death penalty...but commuted to life in prison with no chance of pardon or parole, or visitation of any kind, ever...and everything he ever signed as usurper, made null and void.
Just checked Larry Sinclair's site for the first time in several weeks. Boy, are the usurper's thugs EVER going after him. Social Security called him in for an interview and IRS has threatened to levy his property. Today, the Secret Service visited and interviewed Larry (and his sickly mother, who does not live with him or have anything to do with his website). The audio recordings Sinclair has made are proof that he's really hit a nerve. The more the usurper's thugs try to push him around, the more assertive Sinclair becomes, he refuses to be intimidated. Read the faxes he's been sending to "team Obama" - they DEFINITELY know exactly where Larry stands. I'm certain Sinclair has been telling the truth about "old pink drawers" all along. It would be great to see Sinclair elected to Congress, the cowardly usurper would panic and try his best to have Larry bound, gagged, and confined like Hannibal Lecter. Obama is VERY afraid of the information that Sinclair has on him! At this moment, the usurper's presidency is very pregnant with scandal after scandal and any one of them could easily force him out of office. The developing Timothy Geithner mess may prove to be the iceberg of this "Titanic" administration. "Old pink drawers'" popularity ratings continue to plunge and he puts on his false "everything is just great" face in public. You can bet the usurper is walking around with a lighted cigarette in each hand and he's leaving trails like those of a highly neurotic Chihuahua throughout the White House and Air Force One. I'd hate to be the maid who has to follow him around all day. The usurper and his Marxist buddies are beginning to realize they'll soon have their noses rubbed in all the messes they've made. I wonder what kind of wild diversions they'll attempt to use to hide their misdeeds? Too late, usurper, you're caught! http://www.larrysinclair.com/
Studies in the history of the law of nations
FS Ruddy - The Acceptance of Vattel
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=7PiHOIxUpX8C&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=f.s+ruddy+vattel&source=bl&ots=349d8rqiDL&sig=dQL4ZNBzsqysNBuNtUE2hDXMcyI&hl=en&ei=mGdiS7PfK4m0sgOG5626AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=f.s%20ruddy%20vattel&f=false
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=4651.msg19755#msg19755
http://restoretheconstitutionalrepublic.com/forum/index.php?topic=4651.msg19755#msg19755
Studies in the history of the law of nations
FS Ruddy - The Acceptance of Vattel
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=7PiHOIxUpX8C&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=f.s+ruddy+vattel&source=bl&ots=349d8rqiDL&sig=dQL4ZNBzsqysNBuNtUE2hDXMcyI&hl=en&ei=mGdiS7PfK4m0sgOG5626AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=f.s%20ruddy%20vattel&f=false
My answer and press release to Glenn Beck's closed minded rant on his TV show on the 27th.
For Immediate Release - 29 January 2010
Subject: CDR Charles Kerchner answers Glenn Beck. How the Obama Newspaper Ads
Were Placed in 1961.
To: Glenn Beck
Re. My Open Letter to Glenn Beck
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/01/open-letter-to-glenn-beck.html
Re. Glenn Beck's response/rant on the air to people writing to him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLLs1JTPOk
Dear Mr. Beck:
Those newspaper classified ad insertions announcing the birth of Obama as having
occurred in Hawaii legally prove nothing! GIGO! Garbage in, Garbage out for a
database system. False registration in, false announcement out announcing a birth in Hawaii
in the local newspapers.
The Hawaiian Health Department placed those insertions in the newspaper
automatically on the birth registration of all children whether the registration
documents filed were true or false. Listen to how easy it was to falsely
register a child as being born in Hawaii in 1961 with a simple mail-in form by
only one relative with no witnesses required, which in Obama's case was likely
done by his maternal grandmother to get her foreign born grandson U.S. citizenship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ
Glenn, the issue and question to ask is NOT whether Obama is a U.S. Citizen but
ask whether he is legally a "natural born Citizen" to Article II constitutional
standards for eligibility to serve as the President and Commander in Chief of
our military.
How can a person born as a British Subject be considered to be a "natural born
Citizen" of the USA and eligible to serve as the President and Commander in
Chief of our military?
Another question, "Do you believe that someone born with foreign citizenship,
can and should be considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.?" Obama was
born with foreign citizenship.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25786596/
Read Vattel's, "The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law", Vol.1, Chapter
19, Section 212, which defines what a "natural born Citizen" of a nation is.
Vattel clearly defines what the terms "Citizen" means and "natural born Citizen"
mean. And they are not the identically the same. Then look at the facts of
Obama's birth to a foreign British Subject, his father. Obama's father was not
even an immigrant to the USA. His son Obama II can never be considered to be a
"natural born Citizen" of the USA to constitutional standards.
Obama is not eligible under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S.
Constitution to serve as the President and Commander in Chief of our military.
He is a national security risk and a danger to our country! Obama is a Usurper
in the Oval Office and must be constitutionally removed before he further
damages the country and our Constitution and our protected rights thereunder.
I suggest you research the constitutional meaning of "natural born Citizen" to
constitutional standards and learn the true meaning of that term per the intent
and meaning of the founders of our great nation before you further dig a hole
for yourself on this issue before the American people.
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/09/natural-born-citizen-clause-requires.html
Respectfully,
Charles Kerchner
Commander USNR (Retired)
Lead Plaintiff
Kerchner v Obama & Congress
http://puzo1.blogspot.com
http://www.protectourliberty.org
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My hat is off to you Charles.
Pround to live in a time when men such as you live.
Tex Dix
DixHistory on Obama
Brianroy:
Sounds OK by me!
For Glenn Beck:
The Constitution of the United States - Does it matter?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnL9nDX-x48&feature=player_embedded
The fix is in and the courts and Congress are absolutely useless, they KNOW the usurper in not a "n.b.C.", but they do NOT represent the people, nor do they have ANY intentions of upholding the law. "We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box." CONGRESSMAN LARRY MCDONALD. Numbers one and four are the only viable options left, the other two are useless. Eventually, number four will become an absolute necessity to restore Constitutional law. I care not what others may believe, but I know first hand that in order to restore freedom, sacrifices must be made. The courts and Congress will continue to duck and dodge their responsibility and lie to the Citizens, thus forcing J.F.K.'s prophetic words to become reality. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy. "There are risks and costs to action. But they are far less than the long range risks of comfortable inaction."
John F. Kennedy.
Mr. Apuzzo, Why is it that a so called "law enforcement agency", which had NO search warrant, NO arrest warrant, NO court order, and there was NO "emergency", was allowed to remotely search my computers and download ALL my files, monitor and record ALL my online activities, monitor and record ALL my "VOIP" calls, plus they FORCED the innkeeper to allow them search a motel room which I rent on a continuous basis as a "getaway" from all the stress and aggravation of the "big city", and they asked nearly every person I know about my "reputation", plus I'm CERTAIN they "black bagged" my residence??!! The only indication they gave regarding their purpose was "someone very powerful doesn't like the rumors you're spreading" - they have YET to identify WHICH agency they were with, they refused to disclose their names, OR their EXACT purpose (it certainly appears to be harassment). Have we actually lost ALL PRIVACY RIGHTS? I'm MAD beyond the ability to express my anger in words! Let me get this straight, the usurper cannot be compelled to disclose ANY INFORMATION regarding his life, but MY private life is open to scrutiny by ALLEGED "law enforcement" (the more I type those two words, the more it looks like the worst oxymoron ever conceived) WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PROBABLE CAUSE? WTH?! I've checked all the news archives, but I haven't been able to locate the obituary for "The United States Constitution and Bill of Rights", did the news media completely overlook such a HUGE event?! I'll close out my motel room in the morning (wanna bet money on whether or not I'll not pay the innkeeper for the last two weeks [$750] after he gave the crooks a key without a warrant?), and I'm moving to God knows where until I'm able to leave the country PERMANENTLY. All the best to those of you who still have faith in this nation. I DIDN'T ABANDON THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, THEY ABANDONED ME! I HAVE NOT ONE DROP of PATRIOTISM LEFT, 99.99% OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY TODAY ARE 100% TALK, NO ACTION! THE COURTS WILL NEVER GRANT A HEARING ON THE ELIGIBILITY of the USURPER AND WE ALL KNOW IT! IT IS PATENTLY OBVIOUS THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO RESTORE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW! THE U.S.A. IS JUST AS DEAD AS THE ROMAN EMPIRE.
Obama propaganda recruiting curriculum in high school.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/01/atlas-exclusive-obama-organizing-for-communism-and-youth-corps-in-the-public-school-1.html
(Ms. Gellar's article is also posted on Big Government/Breitbart)
medical:
MAD??? Yes - but right on point and you clearly see what many do not ... that both political parties have come to be nothing but part of the oligarchy and are complicit in moving this country toward ruin.
If you DON'T know what the meaning of oligarchy might be, I suggest you look it up and take it to heart.
I would also hope that you would realize that one of the ways to begin to break the oligarchy and its pernicious influence is to legally pursue the man who has never shown himself to be legally eligible to hold the office he now occupies. If that can be done successfully, it will wake up many in this country to realize that not only has this man - and his political party - been lying and cheating the group rightfully known as "we the people" but so has the so-called "opposition" political party.
As medical points out, they are poth part of the corrupt political process and are indeed a major part of the problem. If a clear decision under our laws shows this man and his hangers-on (including the "pretend-opposition") to be not only in violation of our laws (and clearly corrupt as the Kerchner et al highlights) but also that all his actions are null and void THEN the Americans who are truly "we the people" have the perfect right of action to correct the situation that would have been shown to be totally corrupt.
Certainly the politicians will never do so as they will have clearly shown that they are part of the problem. We certainly need no more oligarchs and should remove all of them.
It seems completely unlikely to me that the Founders EVER envisioned a "class" of professional career-ensconsed people emplanted at the public trough forever merely by the accident of election. Instead, I think the Founders likely envision what amounts to (as we would call it today) "term limits" where each citizen-legislator would serve in congress for a term or two and THEN return to his real life amoung "we the people" to refresh his views on life and this country. We have gotten away from that concept - and it has cost us dearly.
I am not yet willing to give up on this country but would rather hope that the Judiciary will indeed do their job as guardians of the Constitution and make the determination requested by the Kerchner et al action as it proceeds to the Supreme Court.
If they do not live up to their Oath of Office (as the politicians have not done), then indeed the great experiment the Founders envisioned and worked so hard for - risking everything themselves - will indeed give the answer to Benjamin Franklin's answer when asked at the Continental Congress "... what sort of country have you given us? ..." when he said "A republic - if you can keep it" and it will mean we have failed to keep it and the Founders risks were all for naught!
I have been a listener/fan of Glenn Beck since 2002, and the issue surrounding Obama's citizenship and eligibility is the only thing on which I disagree with him. It truly concerns me that he won't even look at all the evidence, because all he sees is the Certification of Live Birth that was posted online in 2008. My prayer is that he will wake up to see the truth before it's too late.
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