Charles Kerchner, Lead Plaintiff in the Kerchner v Obama & Congress Lawsuit, converts Talk Show Radio Host Bill Cunningham of 700 WLW of Cincinnati, Ohio into a Birther.
Hi all. I waited 1 1/2 hours on the line but got on during the last hour of the Bill Cunningham Show out of Cincinnati, Ohio, on Sunday night, 2 Aug 2009. "Willie" Cunningham was challenging people to give him a credible explanation as to how those two birth announcements got into the Honolulu newspapers if Obama was not born in Hawaii. So I decided to try and get on the show to explain it to him. It was a long, long wait, but I finally got on in the last 15 minutes of the show.
I finally got on during the last 10-15 minutes of the third hour of his show. Below is the link to the podcast. Use the scroll bar to fast advance to the last 15 minutes of the show if you don't wish to listen to the whole 3rd hour segment of the show.
http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/CINCINNATI-OH/WLW-AM/090803_3_CUNNINGHAM.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&MARKET=CINCINNATI-OH&NG_FORMAT=newstalk&SITE_ID=1209&STATION_ID=WLW-AM&PCAST_AUTHOR=700WLW&PCAST_CAT=Talk_Radio&PCAST_TITLE=Bill_Cunningham_On_Demand
Someone uploaded the relevant section to YouTube. Here is that link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXQHNMlitpY
Summarizing what I explained to Willie: I explained to Willie how those two newspaper advertisements in the Honolulu Advertiser and the other paper have no independent probative value. It's the garbage in garbage out data effect. If the birth registration was a fraud perpetrated by the grandmother, then those newspaper filings made by the HI Health Dept to those two newspapers (which was standard practice for all births registered) are therefore fraudulent evidence too. I told him the reason grandma did it was to simply get her new Kenyan born grandson retro-active U.S. citizenship, a valued and desirable thing to have even back then. Of course grandma when doing this never anticipated that her grandson would grow up to be the President one day and have this fraud and lie by her exposed. But it now is being exposed and that is what Obama is afraid of.
Grandma Dunham in Hawaii was a shrewd banker and business lady and had lots of lawyer friends at her bank and elsewhere to tell her how easy it was to do, i.e., file a phony birth record in Honolulu for her new grandson. They surely told her the Hawaiian laws were so lax it would be very easy for grandma to do it via a simple mail-in birth registration form. No one from the Health Department ever checked the veracity of the facts for such filings by families back then registering a birth occurring at home, with no witnesses other than a family member. So over the course of the discussion with Willie, I told him, yes there is probably a birth registered for Obama in Hawaii in the vital records database, but this vital record is a false registration in there, and that I did not believe that Obama was really born there in Hawaii based on the contradictory evidence being provided in Kenya by Obama's Kenyan relatives. And thus, Obama does not want the original birth registration documents released because it does not show he was born in any hospital, nor does it show any 3rd party independent non-family member witnesses, and this lack of corroborating evidence in the Hawaii records, will dispute what Obama has been telling everyone, i.e., that he was born in the Kapi' olani Hospital. Thus he'd be caught in another lie he's telling to cover up the real truth. And thus, the testimony in Kenya will gain even more credibility if what Obama is saying happened in Hawaii does not check out via the original birth registration documents. Willie got it. It sunk in. At the end of my segment with Willie he says he's converting to a Birther. Maybe Willie will pass on what he's learned to Hannity and some of his other talk radio friends.
Charles F. Kerchner, Jr.
CDR USNR Retired
Lead Plaintiff
Kerchner v Obama & Congress
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17 comments:
That's good news, but what will really turn the world upside down for the Deniers is if the alleged Certified Copy of Registration from Kenya is authenticated and soon.
On a side note, it turns out that the Bomford/Australian certificate image that the Deniers have been trumpeting about as proving that Orly's photo is fake has disappeared from all the “debunking” articles and is the real fake.
Check out post 1,139 about 2/3rds down the page, re the Kenyan coat of arms emblem:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?q=1&;page=1132#1132
Looks like the Aussie cert was copied from Taitz’s, and not vise-versa.
“Koyann (Steve Ellis), who fabricated the fake “Australian” certificate, didn’t take the time to replacte the crest, instead he cropped the upper part of the template, as you can see: the words “South Australia” are cut in half. It’s clear that he used the Kenya image as template and not the other way around. The typed letters are not distorted by the paper creases as they should.”
You did great Charles!!
Get on next Sunday night too.
It appears the Kenyan BC has been determined a hoax. Oh well, keep on keeping on....
Good Man Charles!
What the immigrant does is get into office through fraudulent means and then on jan 21 signs an executive order declaring that no one can look into his criminal past. This is an impeachable offense. I am a natural born citizen born of two United States citizens in New Orleans, Louisiana and I have standing just based on that alone and the fact that I am a registered voter (not a felon). In fact in my line of work with the largest airline in the world I had to go through "background" screening far greater than anything the "president" (purposely using quotation marks here) had to undergo. If at any point I would have told them I will not submit to a drug test, criminal background check, employment history, fingerprinting, etc. they would have told me to hit the road. This imposter is a phony, liar, fraud, cheat and has invaded the white house through fraud. End of story. Period. Anybody and I mean anybody who takes up for this piece of €&%÷\¿ at this point is complicit to high crimes and misdemeanors, treason in high office and reception of bribes. If u did not understand what I just wrote read it again.
Great job, Charles!
The point O'Reilly and some others in the media are apparently not understanding or missing is whether Barack Obama is a "natural born" citizen, not just a US citizen. Natural born, (as we know from you and Mario) as defined by our Founders in Vattel's the Law of Nations (http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm), is someone born of TWO United States Citizens.
From factcheck.org: "In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC." http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
Factcheck.org itself, with historical ties to Obama, thus admits that he is not a natural born citizen as defined by our Founders, and thus not eligible to be POTUS.
No one seems to bringing this point to the forefront recently in the mainstream media shows, except attorney Orly Taitz.
I hope we can get this very important point to those outlets.
roderick:
You surely don't think Mr. O would "lie", do you??? My goodness, just to get the most powerful, best paying job in the world (perquisites considered)???
BTW Charles - excellent job and you were even able to mention the "www.protectourliberty.org" website ... well done, matey!!
roderick, The executive order, although suspicious by itself, has no effect on any document held out side the federal archive.
Perhaps Rahmadinejihad Emanuel Noriega is behind the recent Obamfuscation of Obahmadinejihad’s Kenyan Registration of Birth…
http://republicans.oversight.house.gov/News/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=625
Mario, today the citizen grand jury folk are in D.C. serving documents to Congress. Regardless of the legitimacy of 'citizen grand juries,' it does seem that Senator Robert Bennett of Utah --- http://bennett.senate.gov/public/ --- is willing to have his legal team research the natural born citizen issue. See:
http://twitter.com/CrystalChalice/status/3127177780
http://twitter.com/CrystalChalice/status/3127248806
http://twitter.com/CrystalChalice/status/3127249031
Over the last few days I've faxed most every Republican member of Congress, as well as a number of supposedly conservative Democrats, primarily discussing the historical definition of natural born citizenship and the Supreme Court precedent we have on the issue (i.e., Venus, Minor, Wong Kim Ark). Hopefully it makes a difference. But just to pitch an idea to you (and I said the same thing to Leo Donofrio), because this particular senator has indicated that he is willing to have his team do legal research on natural born citizenship, perhaps it would be advantageous if you faxed or called his office to offer your legal insight. As a lawyer, your commentary would be much more valuable in their sight than someone else's.
Nick,
Thanks for your work on this most important matter. I am really happy to hear that we have some Senators left who are willing to start looking into the legal definition of what an Article II "natural born Citizen is." Congratulations to Senator Bennett and his team.
Since I am the attorney representing plaintiffs who are suing Congress, I cannot communicate with members of Congress.
Again, Nick, thanks so much for all that you are doing.
I would also like to express my gratitude and appreciation to everyone working tirelessly on this issue and contributing so much to our understanding through input on this blog.
Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
Charles...Now you need to work on O'Reilly and Beck....they are smearing the "birthers" every day on their TV shows!!!!
Joe....where did you hear it was a hoax....this is from Orly herself at her website....it is not a HOAX!!
Debunking the obots, Bomfort report. Time for Obama and Fukino to pack their bags and go.
August 4th, 2009
Debunking Obama’s thugs in the media
Recently Obama’s thugs in main stream media came up with this Bomford report in order to stop my efforts in exposing and prosecuting Obama. Though typically I don’t have time to waste on each and every dumb obot, since it got to National TV and my children”s friends called my children, I’ll spend a few minutes to debunk the obots:
1. Kenya became an independant country in 1963, not 1964. The seal of Kenya was correct.
2. More then one person had certified copies of this document.
3. the document was not issued at birth, but rather was a certified copy obatained in1964, when Kenya became independent
4. The documents from that time would not show Zanzibar, but rather Kenya
5. Bomford report was created to try to discredit my efforts
6.lastly, I am not supposed to waste my time and money on this issue, Obama us the one who is supposed to provide evidence of legitimacy
7. Kenyan BC provides more info than the piece of garbage Obama posted on the n et, which doesn’t have the name of the hospital, name of the doctor or signatures.
8. Chioumi Fukino and Obama and all their Nazi Brown Shirts in the main stream media need to give it a rest and provide an original hospital BC and the corresponding big thick hospital Birthing file from the Kapiolani hospital. If they don’t have such a file, all of them need to resign immediately or they will be prosecuted for massive fraud and treason to this Nation. (in case you didn’t know, treason carries punishment of life in prison or death penalty).
The Obama Disinformation Aparatcik is in high gear, Axelrod's internet Astroturfing Co. is spreading it's half truths by the gigabyte.
Is Orly's document a fake?? Or is Bomard's the fake?? Or was his faked from Orly's to then claim, Orly's a fake. Feel like a dog chasing your own tail yet?
As to the Obots and their EF Lavender detergent, their Republic of Kenya not before 1964 garbage.
How easily it is to refute, via A Newspaper article from 1961 referencing the Republic of Kenya.
Their "renowned" forensic document expert is a "Dr.Ron Polarik" ??? Is that the same Dr Ron P.O.L.R.I.K only now spelled with an added "a" to his name, the very man that debunked Factchecks COLB attributed to Obama?
EF Lavender, think a geneologist might get the bottom of that one as well? I'm no geneologist but I can google a phone book. There are 132 E something Lavenders with listed telephones in America There are 56 E Lavenders (middle initial not used) There are 3 E F Lavenders in the US phone books that list a phone number. The phone book only accounts for a portion of our population I didn't see any ages under 18 in the skip tracing books I was using. Nor did I consult unlisted or cell numbers.
Whether Orly's document is real or not, doesn't this kinda make you wonder "Why all the hub bub Bub? if you know it's a fake?"
Again we are led astray, our eye needs to remain focused on NBC. That is the key issue. Unless Obama Sr has US citizen status Obama Jr is a cooked goose.
Most of the comments posted by the Obots that I have argued against, state that, "natural born" requires only birth on US soil. Some add that the Americam mother makes it a sure thing.
They will fight to the end on birth only needed on US soil to be president. Thats why they defend the impossible, the Hawaii forged COLB.
They will never accept the historical definition of Natural Born as being from TWO US parents AND birth on US soil.
On one site, the Obot must have had 20 quotes to defend US soil only.
That's why we need to prove Obama was never born on US soil and NEVER a Natural born citizen.
Good work Charles and Mario
Well I guess I got botted. I was up late and reading the posts as they were coming in and the whole Bomford thing came out and I took the bait. I was so disappointed.
But today, I understand that it was the Australian doc that was the forgery. No confirmation yet on Orly's. I can't imagine turning that into a court without checking it out. But how would you check it out without the whole world finding out.
So I guess the jury is still out. If anyone has knew info please post it. thanks
RE: cfkerchner at 10:16 PM
I have published relevant parts of the interview on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXQHNMlitpY
Thank you for everything you do for us.
Hi Delegate,
Thank you for uploading my call-in appearance on the Bill Cunningham Show radio show on 700 WLW of Cincinnati, Ohio, this past Sunday night, in answer to his on the air challenge for an explanation as to how the newspaper advertisement for Obama's birth notice got into the Honolulu Advertiser.
Here is a re-post of that link as an active link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXQHNMlitpY
"Willie" Cunningham listened to what I had to say and he understood the point I made of how easy it was to fraudulently register a birth as having occured in Hawaii in 1961 and get the birth announcement placed in the paper by the Hawaii Dept of Health, which was routine for all birth registrations, whether truthful and fraudulent registrations by the mother or grandmother. Any birth, real or not, could be done in Hawaii via a mail order form, with no alleged witnesses other than the person signing the form, which was permitted in 1961. I convinced him this needs to be investigated and the original long-form document must be released to document examiners and the public. At the end he said he too was becoming a Birther.
Thanks again,
Charles Kerchner
Lead Plaintiff
Kerchner v Obama & Congress
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